Compact Tractors are Designed All Wrong

   / Compact Tractors are Designed All Wrong #231  
What a Power Trac wants to be when it's all growed up :wink:

 
   / Compact Tractors are Designed All Wrong #233  
Wow, it even has a telescoping boom attachment! Systemschlepper Syn Trac aus Osterreich im top agrar-Fahrbericht - YouTube

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   / Compact Tractors are Designed All Wrong #236  
Yep, wasn't interested in it until I saw the telescoping boom. :D
 
   / Compact Tractors are Designed All Wrong #237  
It says you can add a 3rd axle without leaving the cab.
 
   / Compact Tractors are Designed All Wrong #238  
How did this discussion go from CUTs, to equipment that 10x the size of a full UT?
 
   / Compact Tractors are Designed All Wrong #239  
Probably because its not much new development in the CUT marked? So it interesting to see what may trickle down from largere machines. Tractors has been very much the same basic idea for a very long time and its quite clear that there are more than the classic way to do it.
 
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Probably because its not much new development in the CUT marked? So it interesting to see what may trickle down from largere machines. Tractors has been very much the same basic idea for a very long time and its quite clear that there are more than the classic way to do it.
I understand that... WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

I was just wondering what features/functions that you (or others) would like to see implemented from the larger machines. The telescopic boom/etc. Is already available from manufacturers like Avant, JCB, Deere, and Power Trac... and Antonio Carrero offers both articulated, 4ws, and reversible compacts.

I've been working on a design for a new CUT for years. I've sourced the most expensive portion of the parts and driveline. It's nice to hear what other people think. There's always that "OH YEAH!" part or function that I'd like to include.

The only thing I see from these larger machines, is their advanced hydraulics. It would nice to have a machine that offers standard cost effective hydraulics, but also an easy upgrade to a computer controlled system with joystick control and entry level automation. It seems every CUT I've looked at, requires those options to be selected at point of purchase, or pay through the nose for them later. A good example of what I'm talking about, is seen in commercial reel mowers. Toro used the same basic pump and motor configuration for years. When they decided to incorporate computerized controls, they simply bolted the new electronic mastercylinder to the pump. The old joystick control was operated via relief circuit, so the lines and control were replaced with the new electronic control an wiring harness. The majority of functions are logic based... meaning the sensors required for lift limit, speed control, etc., were incorporated into the mastercylinder. It used flow and pressure to attenuate functions (like most heavy equipment nowadays) instead of running wires and point-of-reference sensors everywhere... and this was in the 90s. That same approach to automation is what brought Toro to the forefront of mining equipment, literally out of nowhere... and arguably, the inspiration for its quick adaptation across the board.

I've already penned this into the plans for driveline control... but I'd like to know what you see from these huge machines in a CUT.
 

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