Cold Weather Blues

/ Cold Weather Blues #1  

lwcopeland

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Location
Vilonia, Arkansas
Tractor
John Deer 990
For the 1st time ever, my John Deere 990 let me down. Can hardly blame her. It's -13 degrees out there and windy. But when I need her, I need her. The garage where she parks is 20 degrees. She started right up as usual and I rolled her out to warm up at about 1500 rpm. After a few minutes, she sputtered and died. She re-started and died again. That happened numerous times and she wouldn't stay running. I barely got her backed back into the garage. I'm wondering what to do if anything? Maybe I should just wait until it warms up. Hoping to get some ideas from the TractorByNet forum.
 
/ Cold Weather Blues #2  
Sounds like gelled fuel. Are you running #2 diesel or bio-diesel? and have you added any anti-gel / fuel stabilizer.
 
/ Cold Weather Blues #3  
Hello and welcome! It sounds, to me, like the ol' girl has gelled fuel. There are multiple threads here that address this issue. If you are gelled up this stuff will get you going ASAP. http://powerservice.com/d911/
 
/ Cold Weather Blues
  • Thread Starter
#4  
Sounds like gelled fuel. Are you running #2 diesel or bio-diesel? and have you added any anti-gel / fuel stabilizer.

I'm running #2 from the local filling station. I added diesel stabilizer to my fuel a few months ago when the season was changing, and I've also been keeping the tank pretty full to avoid condensation. Of course, I've never tried to use it in such extremely cold weather. Couple days ago, she died when clearing snow. She started right up and I let her idle a while longer to warm up. Didn't have any more problems and cleared snow.
 
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/ Cold Weather Blues #6  
Agree about jell diesel.
If you can drain rest diesel from tank also replace filter and give it good purge..add little anti jell.

Might want to consider another place to purchase diesel.
 
/ Cold Weather Blues #7  
Find some Diesel 911 and a Hair Dryer for your filter and lines. Be Carefull!
 
/ Cold Weather Blues
  • Thread Starter
#8  
I want to thank all who responded to my "cold weather blues" post and for the prior related thread. I learned a lot about diesel fuel and cold weather. As a result, I obtained and added Diesel 911 and a new fuel filter. The JD 990 is designed to be self bleeding so I expected her to start up without much delay after servicing her. I tried the hair dryer but about burned up the extension cord so I switched to a high intensity work light and draped aluminum foil over the light, the fuel filter and lines to help hold the heat. This method seemed to work well. The components got really warm without burning up the wiring, and I could leave the lamp on for extended periods without standing there. Anyway, I added the Diesel 911 and the new filter last Wednesday and hoped she would start that evening. No luck. She wouldn't fire at all. No luck Thursday or Friday either. It took until this morning (Saturday) or 2 1/2 days after adding the 911 and changing the filter before she fired up. I tried not to crank too long at a time and not too many times to avoid running down the battery or burning up my starter. I could be wrong, but I'm of the opinion it just took time to dissolve the paraffin and bleed out the air. She's now running like a champ again and just in time as it's snowing and more snow is on the way. I feel so much better. I sincerely appreciate the responses and thoughtful advice I received from the TractorByNet forum.
 
/ Cold Weather Blues #9  
Glad to hear IWCopeland you got it running

Can the Diesel 911 be used as a regular winter additive (or just in case of freeze up)?

I have a plug in block heater and the tractor really likes it when it gets too cold
 
/ Cold Weather Blues #10  
the odd thing is ive been running store bought winter blend diesel in 2 trucks and 2 tractors while living in COLD north idaho for nearly 20 years, and ive never had a gel issue. I dont use any additives.

We were -15F a few weeks ago, and with the regular block heating for 2 hours prior to use, she fired right up and worked like a champ.

I lived in Montana for 2 years where the temps were -60F with wind chills, and all the fuels were a winter blend (diesel + kerosene) and never any issues.


Are your service stations not using winter blends??? if not find a truck stop. they all use them
 
/ Cold Weather Blues
  • Thread Starter
#11  
I don't know but I assume diesel fuel sold in this area during the winter is a winter blend like gasolines. I talked to a fuel deliveryman a few days ago as he was delivering fuel to a gas station and he didn't think #1 diesel is available at gas stations in this area. If I can find bulk kerosine, maybe I'll start adding kerosine to my diesel fuel along with anti-gel additive. All I know is that I don't want the problem to happen again. I'll check with the closest truck stop and see what they have. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
/ Cold Weather Blues #12  
I don't know but I assume diesel fuel sold in this area during the winter is a winter blend like gasolines. I talked to a fuel deliveryman a few days ago as he was delivering fuel to a gas station and he didn't think #1 diesel is available at gas stations in this area. If I can find bulk kerosine, maybe I'll start adding kerosine to my diesel fuel along with anti-gel additive. All I know is that I don't want the problem to happen again. I'll check with the closest truck stop and see what they have. Thanks for the suggestion.

ya, if there not using a winter blend, that can definably be your problem. good luck
 

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