CK30 HST hour meter

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DrewL

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Is it my imagination or does the hour meter run fast? I got the machine with 4 hours on it, played around for MAYBE a hour and it now says 7 hours. I have half a mind to put on an additional hour meter to verify the one on the dash. Anyone else notice this? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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Time flies when you are having fun /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif


EDIT, seriously some hour meters measure actual hours, some measure a calculated hour based on RPM, not sure what your CK30 has.
 
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Like Bob said, some measure actual time; i.e., an electric clock that is running any time the key is turned on (someone didn't leave the key on, did they?). Other's are based on the engine RPM; i.e., the engine must be running at PTO speed for the hour meter to register an hour in an hour. If the engine is running slower, then it takes longer to register an hour. I haven't seen one that registered too much, though, so if yours is, then I would have to assume something is defective.
 
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The CK30 hour-meter indicates, in five digits, the hours that the tractor has been operated. Records the hour, and portions of the hours that the tractor has been operated while the engine is running. Its operation is not based on engine RPM, but is electrically determined.

Don
 
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yeah..................it is digital and to the best of knowledge the key has been in my tool box nor did I find it in the ignition. I'm the only one who has used the machine. Time does fly but not like this..................I'm going to have to keep an eye on this
 
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I have a question regarding the hour meter... In cold weather the tractor needs warm up time right, 20 minutes or so, how would this read on the electronic meter of the CK30...cag
 
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It would read every minute engine is on and quite likely every minute key is in on position. Think of it as an electric clock powered up by "key-on" battery power.
 
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Now this is an explanation I can understand thanks... cag
 
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You know you may have only used it 2 hours 1 minute. You said the meter showed 4 hours originally. The thing is it may have been 4 hours 59 minutes. With the fun of a new tractor is it possible that you used it 2 hours and 1 minute while thinking you only used it for an hour? That would make your meter show 7 hours.
 
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I read in the owners manual that the hour meter indicates the hours the tractor has been operated at an average of 2200 rpm; at slower rpm the clock is slower and at faster rpm the clock is faster. see page 5-23 of your manual.
 
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There ya go Rick, reading the owners manual.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Did your wife make ya do it??? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I thought I would refer to it if a wheel falls off or sumpin...lol

So its not really an hour meter but some vague measurement of a mathematical formula of r.p.m/time r squared to the fifth? I've never been to Korea but I guess theyre 14 hours ahead minus several hundred rpm /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( read in the owners manual that the hour meter indicates the hours the tractor has been operated at an average of 2200 rpm; at slower rpm the clock is slower and at faster rpm the clock is faster. see page 5-23 of your manual. )</font>

Acutally that is a typo, all the new manuals dated Nov. 04 say the correct way it reads, which is true hours, and is not based on RPM's. The older style Kiotis were RPM based but all CK25's & CK30's as well as many of the new DK tractors are ture hour systems.
 
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I have an older owners manual /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif My tractor is an "E" 2005. I should have gotten the newer manual. Thanks depratt_equip.
 
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Jon is right, that was a typo which I corrected when I rewrote the manual for Kioti last year. There are actually several versions of the owner's manuals out there, and dealers may simply be depleting their old stocks before getting new ones. Even the first printing of my reedit did not include the many many words I added to the INDEX as the Korean in charge of the project didn't understand why they were important to looking up information!
If you send me your regular e-mail addy, I'll send you a WORD.DOC file of the edit. Send it to me: kiotijohn@bellsouth.net
Please indicate your TBN user name so I know where it's coming from.
John
 
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To answer the guy that posted the question on this site, the hour meter is run from pulses it gets from an FFT soleniod on the firewall that gets power from the alternator. After so many signals are "pulsed out" from the solenoid the hour meter will turn to the next digit for the CK25 and CK30 tractors. (I'm not sure about the other models). there fore the faster the alternator runs the faster the hour meter is going to turn over. However I have clocked mine after having some problems, and it is pretty darn close to an hour. If you wish to disconnect the hour meter from turning over there is a pink wire under your left foot/ under the platform male to female plug. If you disconnect this; the hour meter will not count the cycles, but stay stagnate at a the hour on the meter.

How do I know this, cause mine was shipped with that plug disconnected and I went through everything with the dealer trying to figure out why my hour meter wasn't working. Finally I found that plug that was disconnected.


Hopefully that answers your question
 
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Thanks for the tip but the hour meter does serve a purpose. Good explaination on how it works. I'm keeping an eye on it but the is NO way I have put three hours on it............yet /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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Hmmm, I have the opposite situation. My CK30 hour meter has decided that 9 hrs is all it cares to log. I am certain that I have a bit more than 13. Methinks I need to check on that little pink wire under the platform. As far as the electronics of it, I like the idea of grading on a curve so to speak. Since higher revs tend to indicate more cycles of wear on all moving parts it seems logical to indicate that the engine has more time on it. OTOH, for those folks that lug the engine under load, the engine may get shortchanged if maintenance is scheduled based on the clock alone. Alas, compromise rears its ugly head in the engineering dept as well as the rest of life :-(
 

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