ck20s vs. b2320

[cadillac]

I'm investigating replacing my 1981 mitsubishi d1600II (same as a satoh bull) with a modern tractor with a loader. I have a kubota and kioti dealer in town, so I'm trying to decide between the two. I'd like to get some opinions on the two if possible. Kubota's b2320 and Kioti's ck20s, both with the hydrostat option and a loader.

I did get a quote of $14,500 on the Kioti. Does that seem fair?

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[LD1]

IIRC the kioti is a few hundred pounds heavier, and can lift a few hundred more on the front and back to match, but other than that they are pretty similar tractors.

The best advise is to go to the dealers and actually drive BOTH and pick the one you like the best. The capability of the tractors in the hands of a skilled operator arent too much different from one another. But you have to be comfortable and enjoy driving it to be productive. Ergonomics are different, and one size doesnt fit all.

 

[cadillac]

Thank you.

 

[Gittyup]

For loader type work the CK's extra weight and lift will perform best. For PTO work I'd probably lean Kubota.

 

[94BULLITT]

If I was going with a B sereis Kubota I would get a B2620. The B2320 has a weaker loader.

The Kubota has a 3 range Hydro. I think the Kioti is 2.

 

[Grandad4]

Many happy owners of both machines... you couldn't go wrong with either one, although Roger makes a good point about looking at the B2620. Get some time trying them out to see which suits you best.

 

[cadillac]

great replies, thank you to everyone.

 

[cadillac]

Any thoughts on kubota's quarter inching valve vs. kioti's position control? I've read that the quarter inching valve will leak down over time, but those were older posts.

 

[LD1]

Any thoughts on kubota's quarter inching valve vs. kioti's position control? I've read that the quarter inching valve will leak down over time, but those were older posts.

Never used the QIV so I cannot say wether I would like it or not. But I think alot of it depends on what you want to do with it and what attachments you want to use.

Do a youtube search. I think there are alot of videos showing how it operates and the pros and cons of it

 

[94BULLITT]

Any thoughts on kubota's quarter inching valve vs. kioti's position control? I've read that the quarter inching valve will leak down over time, but those were older posts.

Position control is better but quater inching is fine.

 

[Grandad4]

I don't know if one type of valve is more prone to leak-down than the other, but all hydraulic apparatus can do so over time, particularly as they get worn from use. Many, if not most, old Fords, Fergusons, etc. from long ago, eventually had 3 point position control lifts that leaked down and needed rebuilding. As a practical matter, you usually need to tweak the settings periodically anyhow to compensate for uneven ground conditions, so a circuit that leaks down over 30 minutes to an hour really doesn't affect how you use it. When a rock steady position is required, you typically find some kind of check circuit on the hydraulic cylinders.

 

[TSO]

That price seems a little high for the Kioti.

The 3 spd trans on the Kubota is a plus.

As said, the Kioti will be a better loader rig.

Kioti has a better seat.

Position control is better than QIV.

Both very good tractors otherwise. Get seat time on both.

 

[GManBart]

If the larger size isn't a problem, I'm wondering how close the price would be on a CK27 to the B2320? That would get the 3-range HST and a fair bit more FEL lift capacity. I honestly think Kioti would sell more CK20s if they had a 3-range HST. It's funny, but they put a 2-range tranny on machines with smaller engines, when they are the ones that need more gear choices, because they're limited in power. If you've got a big, powerful engine, you can get by with fewer gear choices (not ideal, but you can get by).

 

[bigpinwheel]

I thought I had heard rumblings about a ck20 replacement in the works as well, was I dreaming this? It would only take a couple of extra horses, three range hst and better mmm support with the same kind of weight and lifting capacity to make the ck20 a no brainer for me. As it sits now I would go with the Kubota for mowing consideration.

You make no mention of mowing so it seems the ck20 would be better for loader work.

 

[cacx2]

The replacement for the ck20 is a new hood and 24.5 hp, no 3 speed trans. The dealers are told to get rid of the old so the new can be shipped, already sitting at factory. Now the deals are good. I got a a ck20 hydro fel and r4 for 12000.00 plus tax the gear models are 10800.

 

[bigpinwheel]

Thanks for the update, I might have to check with the local dealer and see if they're motivated to move an older model.

 

[cadillac]

The replacement for the ck20 is a new hood and 24.5 hp, no 3 speed trans. The dealers are told to get rid of the old so the new can be shipped, already sitting at factory. Now the deals are good. I got a a ck20 hydro fel and r4 for 12000.00 plus tax the gear models are 10800.

Wow, can I buy from you and have it delivered to me for that cost? You beat my dealer's cost by a long shot. They're delivering to someone right? Just sub my address for yours.