Ck20hst no hydrulics

[grumpygregg]

I was wondering if any one can tell me if the hydraulic pump drive gear connected to the injector pump cam should turn about 3/4 of a turn before catching. I have tried to find a shop manual to see if it is keyed and maybe the key is sheared and just catching or broken cam
There is no pump pressure. Was working and I heard a snap after that no pressure, bucket, steering or rear ports.

 

[RNeumann]

It might be easier to find an exploded view from someone who sells parts. Typically your local dealer will give you those.

 

[grumpygregg]

I talked to the dealers mech and he had no clue , he said they could take it apart and fix it. Only it would cost 1 to 2 grand by time they are done. I have mech experience. I use to rebuild gas engines and auto transmisson. I am just trying to find out the info before I take apart some thing that might be normal and not be the problem. I have seen a lot of the posts of the injector gears stripped the pics only show the injector module. If anyone knows of a post that shows the injector cam it would help.

 

[RNeumann]

I talked to the dealers mech and he had no clue , he said they could take it apart and fix it. Only it would cost 1 to 2 grand by time they are done. I have mech experience. I use to rebuild gas engines and auto transmisson. I am just trying to find out the info before I take apart some thing that might be normal and not be the problem. I have seen a lot of the posts of the injector gears stripped the pics only show the injector module. If anyone knows of a post that shows the injector cam it would help.

With your mechanical experience an exploded view would be easy to figure out.......skip the mechanic if you want to fix it yourself.

 

[grumpygregg]

I have it apart to the gear already. I looked at the manual at the dealer. The parts don't show a clear view on the two shafts because one shaft is in hydraulics the cam is shown in the injector/ fuel section. Anyone that has done the cam on there injector has a pic or remembers would help ck20 to 30 have the same set up.

 

[Dave M7040]

When I was trying to help a couple of people I bought a couple of Kioti Workshop Manuals from this download site for $9.99 and found them to be good quality not photo copied pages.

Unfortunately I did not buy a CK one.

Suggest you consider investing in one.

Kioti Tractor Service Manuals PDF Download

Dave M7040

 

[grumpygregg]

When I was trying to help a couple of people I bought a couple of Kioti Workshop Manuals from this download site for $9.99 and found them to be good quality not photo copied pages.

Unfortunately I did not buy a CK one.

Suggest you consider investing in one.

Kioti Tractor Service Manuals PDF Download

Dave M7040

Thank you. I will order one monday. I asked the dealer if I could by one the said that only dealers are allowed to have the Manuals and they have to pay 400.00 for each one they need. They should pin this web site so all kioti owners can get Manuals.
Once again thanks

 

[Dave M7040]

Thank you. I will order one monday. I asked the dealer if I could by one the said that only dealers are allowed to have the Manuals and they have to pay 400.00 for each one they need. They should pin this web site so all kioti owners can get Manuals.
Once again thanks

When people ask me which tractor to buy, I suggest they first try and find all manual and part resources online for the brands they are considering and then decide.

John Deere has the highest quality manuals with lots of color and explanations. Kubota has the most free material. Kioti comes up short in this review wantiing everyone to go to a dealer.

Dave M7040

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[grumpygregg]

I bought my kioti back in 2012. It ran flawless till now. Was using the backhoe when the problem happened. The dealer was helpful and showed me exploded views on the computer but like I said earlier the parts ( injector cam and hydraulic pump drive shaft) are in two separate sections and not detailed. I have searched for a Manual on the internet but could not find one. That is why your link should be a sticky. I am sure other owners would benefit from it. Once again thanks for the link.

 

[N2DFire]

I was wondering if any one can tell me if the hydraulic pump drive gear connected to the injector pump cam should turn about 3/4 of a turn before catching. I have tried to find a shop manual to see if it is keyed and maybe the key is sheared and just catching or broken cam
There is no pump pressure. Was working and I heard a snap after that no pressure, bucket, steering or rear ports.

Generally speaking I always go to Michigan Iron and Equipment/ for the parts diagrams, but their site is blocked at work so I had to look elsewhere. I still HIGHLY recommend MIE for any help on parts you need. They are great to work with and a Site supporter also. Might be worth your time to give them a call about your issue.


Now - on to your question. I have no idea about the CK20's in this respect so I'm just looking & guessing but ...

If you're talking about part #6 here - then yes it's keyed
Fuel Cam Shaft Group

If you're talking about part #9 here - it appears to be on a splined shaft.
Hydraulic Gear Pump Group

If it's neither one then hopefully these exploded diagrams will at least help you find what you're looking for.

Best of luck

 

[SSdoxie]

No it should not. The injection pump cam has spline drive for the gear to the pump, this gear meshes with a smaller gear to increase pump rotation speed and the smaller gear is spline drive to the pump input shaft.

 

[grumpygregg]

Gear9 is on a short shaft which is not shown in neither of the two links if you look at the fuel cam shaft the one end is the the gear to crankgear the other end is slotted. Gear 9 has a shaft of its own that goes in the notch on the end of the fuel cam. I decided I am going to take gear 9 out and try and see the short shaft if it broke or the cam is broken.

 

[grumpygregg]

The gear on the splined shaft from the fuel cam feels like it is spring loaded. Turn it one way it winds up let go springs back turn the other way half a turn tightens up with in 1/2 a turn. I tried to pull shaft out but bearing will not move. Do you know if there is a spring between the cam and the splined shaft?

 

[grumpygregg]

Well put everything back together. No hydraulics still. Is there a way to check the injector cam with out pulling the whole front end of the motor off and taking the cam out. The hydraulic pump does not turn, so I am at a loss.