CK20 Market competition

[Spanky100]

What other Tractor Brands and Models do you see the CK20 competing against?

From other posts it looks like the CK20 with 4WD and HST will have MSRP list for around 10,600 USD.

Any thoughts what the discounted cash price will end up for those willing to order and wait?

 

[lynnmll]

I would think that it will be marketed against the Kubota B7500, NH Boomer TC21, and the John Deere 4010. That is my guess.

I would like to know what is the advantage of the Kioti over the big three? This not a question to start a fight, I would like to honestly know what is making this brand gain market share. Have I just missed something? I know that it weighs more, but is this the only thing or is there more.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I'm shoppin tractors too (you might have noticed) and I first heard about the CK20 here on TBN. Since then I've been researching any and all info on Kioti/Daedong. There a company that's over 50 years old and have been in the states about 18 years.

From all my reading, I gather they are a quality built tractor (based upon owners reviews) and are available at a reasonable price. Maybe we can get some of the actual Kioti owners to chime in here.

 

[Spanky100]

lynnmil

My thoughts are that NH, Kubota, and JD do a good job meeting the users needs with a full range of transmissions and features. The reason I started to watch Kioti is what I think(new to looking and evaluating specs) are lower prices on gear drive tractors. This said they have not offered a HST transmission verson in the past. First offering is the CK20H this spring. My needs and wants lead me to a HST drive only. My concern is that the price advantage might not continue with comparable HST tractors and increased dealership network. Hopefully the more experienced will offer additional insite.
Wayne

 

[Anonymous Poster]

<font color=blue>From other posts it looks like the CK20 with 4WD and HST will have MSRP list for around 10,600 USD.<font color=blue>

<font color=black>In a thread titled "New Models" here in the kioti forum there is a post listing the Manufacturers list price... $12,09_ (last number was omitted)<font color=black>

 

[lynnmll]

I agree that the Big "3" do a good job. I also agree that Kioti must be doing a good job. Because I haven't found any disatisifed owners postings, I'm sure someone is uphappy with their Kioti.
I don't know how large of finish mowers that the CK20 can use successfully. I've been told that the heavier the tractor the more work that you can expect it to be able to do. I'm not sure that is correct but I bet someone will give us the answer.
The price I recieved form a dealer on Friday was for #10,500.00 for the CK20H tractor with out the option of rear hydraulic hookup.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I haven't seen any printed specs for mowers, attachments or the FEL yet. I'm sure they will be out soon...

<font color=blue>The price I recieved from a dealer on Friday was for #10,500.00 for the tractor with out the option of rear hydraulic hookup. <font color=blue>

<font color=black>The "manufacturers suggested retail price" was listed as $1209_ so it appears the dealers will be coming down off that price. I checked with one dealer....CK20 Hydro with turf tires $10,600.<font color=black>

 

[RedDog]

"I also agree that Kioti must be doing a good job. Because I haven't found any disatisifed owners postings, I'm sure someone is uphappy with their Kioti."

I won't be the first one to complain,,,, no complaints from me. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

RedDog <font color=orange> Kioti DK65 </font color=orange>

 

[lynnmll]

I have received a price for a CK20H with valve MMM for a total of $12K.
Is this a good price? Or should I just stick with one of the Big 3?
I like the features that the CK20H has more that any of the others but I also know that the dealer network is not as good.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

So that works out to $1500 for mmm. I would say that is a very reasonable price for a mmm. However...I would certainly wait until the CK20 is available to test out, sit in the seat, spend some time and get familiar with the unit. This goes for all makes and models that you are considering.

If your anywhere near Louisville, KY next month...Feb 12-15... The National Farm Show...that would be a great place to check all the seats out.

 

[lynnmll]

I will be checking out the Kioti and then going back to the others that I've looked at. I thought that the $1500. was a good price for the MMM as well.
The tractors that I've looked at that I'd thought that I might buy was the BX2200 or JD 2210. I had made up my mind last fall on the B7500, but at this time I guess that it will depend upon price, availabilty, and dealers.
I am a long way from the fair here in N. Tx.
I have until the grass starts growing before I purchase unless I get a whale of a deal.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I noticed you we're looking at box blades. If your going to be doing any aggresive earth moving the larger heavier tractors will do a better job. Will you be considering a FEL? They are the greatest attachment of all. Mine has saved my back many a time. HP is only one part of the equation. IMO the manufacturers are putting larger engines in the sub-compacts for marketing purposes, not because they need them. I would take a compact over a sub-compact in general terms for the beefier hydraulics systems, greater lift on the 3 points and the loaders, the larger tires, more ground clearance. With 6 - 7 acres to maintain I would certainly go with one of the compact sized tractors verses the subcompact size. The CK20 has more standard features than the 7500.

 

[lynnmll]

No, I will only be useing the box blade as a tool to level up the yard. I might at some time do a little gravel moving but at this time I don't see that happening very much. I probably will purchase a FEL but I don't think so at this time. I have a contract to mow the 7-8 acres that will clear the tractor. My CFO will not approve a FEL until I can prove that it is needed.

I do see that the CK20H does have many more goodies than the 7500. It is also a much better price and from what I read not a lesser product. If anything a better product.

I have also received a price for $10,500 with valve plus the $1,500 for the mower. This is a little better price if I can only get my local dealer to buy in for this price.