CIH 5230 loader valve

[HHelms]

Hey Guys
New guy here.
I recently purchased a CaseIH 5230 with a Koyker 500 loader, which uses the remotes.
I would like to replumb with a 2 or 3 spool cable/elec operated joystick loader valve, so that I can use my remotes when I need them. I have the power beyond plate, but am not having any luck finding the proper loader valve. The valve needs to be compatable with the Beyond power, pfc, remote sensing, hydraulic system.
Thanks
H

 

[J_J]

How about something like this valve,

Surplus Center - 3 SPOOL 14 GPM PRINCE WVS31BBB5C1 DA VALVE

2 spool valve, cable lever optional.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=9-6702&catname=hydraulic

Joystick lever control.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?catname=hydraulic&item=9-6704-J

 

[HHelms]

Thanks JJ.
I probably should have included more information on the tractor system. Its a closed system, 20 gpm, Bp, sense line, pfc system. It seems like a pretty complex system, and I was hoping someone had already done a valve retorfit and could help with reference, or valve numbers.
That valve might work, but it is open center and max flow is less than the 20 gpm. I really have no idea if it is compatable with or not. It appears to me that the pb plate basically taps into the hyd system and bypasses the priority of the remote spools.
I called Surplus center last week and they indicated that part # 97676 might work, but I hate to spend the money on a "might work" valve.
As you can see confusion abounds.
H

 

[J_J]

Tractor dara says closed cented, but where did you get the Power Beyond stuff. It is usually associated with open center hyd system.

This one below is a 25 GPM loader valve, and can be converted to closed center.


Surplus Center - 2 SPOOL 25 GPM JOYSTICK LOADER CONTROL VALVE

This is the valve you referenced, and it is CC, and the max pressure on this valve is 2610 psi max, and GPM's is 17.2 .

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?catname=&qty=1&item=97676

 

[art]

The PFC hydraulic is what I'd call an advanced closed system.

 

[J_J]

PFC

Hydraulics, closed center, pressure and flow compensated, 29 gpm

 

[RickB]

Tractor dara says closed cented, but where did you get the Power Beyond stuff. It is usually associated with open center hyd system.

This one below is a 25 GPM loader valve, and can be converted to closed center.


Surplus Center - 2 SPOOL 25 GPM JOYSTICK LOADER CONTROL VALVE

This is the valve you referenced, and it is CC, and the max pressure on this valve is 2610 psi max, and GPM's is 17.2 .

Surplus Center - 3 SPOOL 17 GPM BONDIOLI PAVESI CC LS VALVE

The first valve linked here is totally inappropriate for a PFC/CCLS system, the second one looks like a great value and would work well.

 

[HHelms]

Tractor dara says closed cented, but where did you get the Power Beyond stuff. It is usually associated with open center hyd system.

JJ
The owners manual references the power beyond plate for: " when a continous supply of oil is needed eg, front loader. The return port can be used separately. The implement must be fitted with a closed center valve"
From what i can tell its just a plate that sits on top of the remote spools and gets first priority on the oil. ??? It was quite expensive for a 1/2 inch cast iorn plate that only had about 10 minutes of machine work involved.
H

 

[HHelms]

RickB
Thanks for the info.
Are the Bondioli valves good valves?
H

 

[RickB]

RickB
Thanks for the info.
Are the Bondioli valves good valves?
H

I don't know anything about them. But it would not be hard to spend 4 times that price on a valve with similar capabilities and capacity. Having the built in ability to control a grapple or other 3rd function via the solenoid controlled spool is a neat plus.

 

[HHelms]

Rick
I hear that the hydraulics on these tractors are pretty slow, even at 20 gpm.
Do you think the 17 gpm bondi valve has enough flow rate to operate the loader?
H

 

[J_J]

17 GPM's is way more than enough to operate any loader.

GPM's determines speed of operation for the cyls.