Chinese Tractor Feedback Requested

[slorne]

I'm in the electronic's business, and import to the US from asian countries. I'm looking for a small 4x4 tractor for my property and located many tractor factories in China.

Jinma, Hubei, etc.. However, I read a post about engine's and the EPA as well as a Foton (illegal to import).

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to wire hard earned $ for a tractor, wait a couple of months, and then get messed up with customs, etc..

Thanks

 

[bluechip]

Slorne,
You may get more response if you post this under the Chinese section. Kioti is S. Korean, not Chinese, big difference. Your concerns are well founded regarding importing a single tractor. If you want one, I would buy one that is already in USA.

 

[virgil]

I've had some real bad experances with most chinese tractors. Parts, avalibility, and some of them really do not belong here in the good ole U.S.A.
I know some folks here that own them, they are well satisfied, untill it breaks. There are lots of folks out there who have had a good experance with the gray market machines. I am not one of them...
Check it out real good. then check it out again.

I would prefer something that has support here at home. (parts, dealerships, training, warehouses etc.)

 

[Bob_Skurka]

slorne . . . there are some well established businesses who import chinese tractors and more importantly they have parts available. You'd probably be money ahead if you simply order a Jinma tractor from someone like Northern Tool or Homier. Not only will you eliminate the risk of EPA issues, but you will get a warrenty and a parts source. These tractors are very rough in the fit & finish department by our standards, hoses and belts also seem to be some concern, but they are cheap servicable machines that will serve you well if you don't mind doing some of your own wrench turning.

 

[greg_g]

Don't let that "grey market" statement mislead you. Grey market refers specifically to USED imports, models that would otherwise never have been sold NEW in America.

That said, the emerging Chinese (new) tractor market is quite confusing right now. There are only a few basic manufacturers (Jinma, KAMA/Taishan, Foton primarily), but these underlying models are subsequently marketed under a myriad of names and color schemes, trim levels and options.

That's where we come in - to help you sort the wheat from the chaff. Given the current turmoil generated trade dress infringement and EPA transitions - and one or more unscrupulous importers - most who have been there done that generally recommend against self-import at this time. And it's looking like this may end up being a semi-permanent recommendation. That said, already being an importer may give you an edge, but beware that Customs is currently giving all blue Chinese tractors a very hard look.

//greg//

 

[MarkNHow]

Slorne,

I own a Jinma and the common misconception is parts availability. There are many places you can get parts quickly and easily. I don't know about the other brands parts availability but Jinma is sold under many names.

Mark H

 

[RICHARDG]

Yeah,,yada,yada ,,,,etc,,,,john deeres come from japan with a chinese motor,,,come on people,,,,the chinese tractor is not new to us consumers,,,I've had one for two years,,,,parts are there,,warrentys are there,,,give it a break,,,,,now are they worth the 16,000 dollars kabota and deere charge for their simular models,,,no way,,,,but of course they ain't either,,,none are made in us,,,do you all like korea and japan better than chinia,,,for some strange reason?????I could care less,,about any of them,,as far as countrys....thingy

 

[schmalts]

The parts thing is a joke whe they say its hard to find them... I bet right now you can find and get a part for a jinma as fast or even faster than a JD or other big3. Cmon, everyone knows that most parts you need for even a green machine needs to be ordered most of the time so its no different than a jinma. And parts are so cheap at dealer price they can afford to stock a **** of a lot more! i used to import them! a piston was about 8$ an injector was like 5$ an injection pump like 75$ lift pumps for 45$ you cant afford not to stock parts! dont let anyone tell you parts are hard to find.
And for the lesser known chinese tractors a lot of them have common parts on them that cross over. Many Kama parts fit a Jinma and so on..

 

[johnk]

I have to agree. When I ordered parts I received them in no time at all. I actually had a dealer send me bushings @ no charge and I didn't buy the tractor from him. Rocker arm also sent @ no charge from another dealer I didn't buy from. I have a Jinma 224 and I'm proud of the work it does. Didn't pay more for it than a decent Quad and it does all the work I ask of it.

http://users.adelphia.net/~gizmo/

 

[Cabinholler]

greg g

Are these the Chinese tractors that you sent me a private message on. The names of these Chinese tractors are very confusion to me. I have found a dealership in Liberty, KY that has these Chinese tractors. The name of their tractors are Eagle. You can get these tractors in a 50, 60, and 70 horsepower. These size tractors come with 4X4, 2X2, with cabs, or without cabs. They also have smaller horsepower tractors in the Eagle brand.

At the present time, I do not know the dealers web site in Liberty, KY, but if you want to find them go to Ironsearch's main page and click on dealers, and then click on Kentucky, and you will find them in the Kentucky dealers.

Their name is:
Liberty Motors
Liberty, KY

Cabinholler

 

[greg_g]

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Are these the Chinese tractors that you sent me a private message on. )</font>
I only check these boards randomly, email is better for me. If you don't mind, use another PM to send me your email address. We can pick up this discussion from there.

//greg//

 

[PineRidge]

Schmalts in all cases parts may not be an easy issue for all makes. About 6 years back we purchased a new 25HP 4WD Chinese made tractor from Quality Farm and Fleet. That was just before they went out of business. For the next 5 years we scrambled to find whatever parts that we needed. We were fortunate to find a guy in Canada and also a fellow in Ohio that kept us going. But it was never a situation where you might walk into a dealer and say give me one of these.

We finally sold that tractor, not because it wasn't made well, but because we just plain got tired of constantly searching for whatever we needed.

I'll take one of the big 3 any day of the year now. It's a lot easier to hunt up parts for our New Holland.

TC-40D SS web pictures click here

 

[TruChaos]

There are quite a few Jinma parts dealers in the US. Jinma has been around a long time and it's going anywhere anytime soon.

I own a John Deere lawn tractor. It's an expensive model not sold at Home Depot and I love it. I also own a Jinma compact tractor.

Recently I needed parts for my Jinma. I went to Jinmaparts.com and ordered them. They were on my front steps three days later.

I broke the throttle on my John Deere so, I ordered that and some brake parts via the John Deere website. They handed the order to a local company called Ridgeway. I placed the order via internet but have since then have had to fax the order to the local dealer (20 miles away) twice! I placed the John Deere parts order on 11/15/04 and still have not received any of the parts!

Jinma 3 days
John Deere 2 months.

The Chinese parts arguement doesn't work anymore for me folks.

If any of you doubt me, I'd be happy to fax to you a copy of the JD invoice.

 

[KevinCarty22]

I would not buy Chinese Tractor unless I bought it from a dealer
that was less then 1 hr. away . And had warrenty in hand .
Great price lots of problems . IMO Have 1 for year 5 hrs at most

 

[jmf7112001]

To those people who need to walk in the door and say give me one these. Those days are over in most of the business world. I was equipment manager for a large firm. At one time we had half million dollars, plus in part in our inventory and then came UPS, Federal Express and etc. We found it was much cheaper to pay the freight to get our customer parts than the inventory cost. I find this true in lots of business today. I had a Jima in my yard and broken the tail lite assemby. I came in early one morning and place a order with Jimaparts.com and the next after noon I had the assembly. Can't get much better than that.

 

[PineRidge]

If you have a good parts source whether it's a local guy or via the Internet then I don't see a big problem for you. In our case the manufacturer name was Shenniu I believe located in Heubi, China if our memory serves us right and they just weren't connected period.

We can't speak Chinese they can't speak English and at the time we were not importing product into the US so we finally bailed on the little tractor. Still we worked it hard for 5 years. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Here is a picture of it headed down the road for the very last time.

 

[SPIKER]

hi PR:

I belive hubie is a china export company, but it could be a town named after the company too?

hows that grapple going? I still have tons of brush at my place /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

MarkM /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[PineRidge]

Hey Mark, we're still working on the plans. Getting closer to actually start cutting steel, stay tuned. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[jwnge]

Jinmaparts.com at Deljen World is where I bought my tractor. Great dealer. their motto.." sudden and unexpected service" and they have lived up to it for me so far. They sell Jinma and Mahindra and make their own brand of loader and backhoe..SPIRIT...they are built very well.... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif...John

 

[rsatter22]

PineRidge,
This is a little late for you since you don't have the Shennui,but maybe someone else can benefit. I've had good luck getting anything I've needed for my Shennui from Jim's Farm Equipt. in Gallipolis,OH. The Shennui is from the Hubei providence.
Rick