Chickens

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Will hens lay without a Rooster ? I really didn't want a Rooster
I probably won't have more than 8-10 chickens..
... An emphatic YES. They will lay without a rooster. And possibly have better egg production without a rooster.
...Just won't ever have a chance to hatch out any baby chicks
... Our rooster is very protective of his ladies, and he will lead them out in the morning and back into the coop at night.
....but he is sometimes a little rough with them too. And he is not kind at all to the ducks.
.... As a matter of fact, he is slowly working his way to a soup pot, if he doesn't settle down. HaHa.
 
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#12  
Well, I guess I could get a Rooster, and just fence him off from the hens. Just use him if I ever want baby chicks
 
   / Chickens #13  
Well, I guess I could get a Rooster, and just fence him off from the hens. Just use him if I ever want baby chicks

The only reason I can think that you would want a rooster is if you wish to have fertilized eggs. I personally found roosters to be a pain the @*%#. They crow all night. And, if you have any neighbors nearby, they will complain. A bunch of hens without a rooster are more tranquil.
 
   / Chickens #14  
FYI - if you're just acquiring roosters: sexing is not a perfect science. Our rooster was supposed to be a hen; we ended up with 1 of 8 being the roo. My wife wanted MORE chickens, so she got 6 more and 1 of those 6 is a dang rooster.
 
   / Chickens #15  
Let's talk egg production.
The best layers are the sexlinked birds. Downside is their production drops off after the second molt.
Best white egg and best overall keepers are your leghorns. Very thrifty birds. Keep a small light on and they'll lay all winter.
Best brown egg layers are the australorps.
 
   / Chickens #16  
Let's talk egg production.
The best layers are the sexlinked birds. Downside is their production drops off after the second molt.
Best white egg and best overall keepers are your leghorns. Very thrifty birds. Keep a small light on and they'll lay all winter.
Best brown egg layers are the australorps.

When I was young my grandmother would get between 200 and 400 leghorns a year. Mostly for eating because back then they were the most readily available. Only thing about them is leave the coop door open or the run open and they got loose we never could get them all back. The higher they roost the better they like it. I have had lots of different breeds and agree the australorps have some of the prettiest eggs. I have buffs, blues, rocks, blacks, reds, delawares and welsimers. Hope the spelling is correct. After years of chickens I think I am going to go totally with the welsimers for eggs. They lay really nice dark brown eggs, very pretty bird, don't seem to tear up scratching the ground so much, and a little on the shy side so their not under your feet. If you want a friendly bird get delawares. They will follow you everywhere and are the first to greet you in the morning. They alway have one of those beady little eyes on the look out for when you may come out to try and beg some food or treats from you. I don't do roosters anymore. They just are to ruff on the hens and most I ever had ended up getting mean. Last I had was a delaware and got big and was very handsome looking. Big comb and waddles but would attack you in a minute. If you want something to protect your free ranging chickens get a male goose. Just one and raise him with the chickens. Makes lots of noise when something is wrong or someone or something comes in the yard and will run a big dog off in a minute and don't mess with the chickens like a rooster will.
 
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never knew there were so many breeds. I thought about just going to the local TSC ,or Co-op (farm store) to purchase the hens. Don't know what breeds they sell. I only know they sell chickens.

I have a friend that has Rhode Island red chickens. I get brown eggs from him at times
 
   / Chickens #18  
never knew there were so many breeds. I thought about just going to the local TSC ,or Co-op (farm store) to purchase the hens. Don't know what breeds they sell. I only know they sell chickens.

I have a friend that has Rhode Island red chickens. I get brown eggs from him at times

To answer your questions from earlier, that's what I did was buy plastic containers from Walmart, you want around a 12x12 inch box, mine ended up being 11x14in boxes due to the plastic totes but the hens used them just fine.

I originally didn't have the mini ladder but I was getting a crazy amount of eggs on the ground and little in the boxes so I built a mini ladder which solved that prob, it was about a 3ft hop which they weren't a fan of making.

That platform I built my boxes on was already in that room, it was a shelf higher up so I moved it lower, in order for it to work it had to be above the block, that's the only reason my boxes are that high, you can have them almost on the ground if you want, only downside to that is the varmints like skunks that suck eggs down low, I have not purposely pushed a few out of my coop late at night lol.

Yes a hen will lay just fine without a rooster and if you have a low hen to rooster ratio the rooster will literally screw the feathers off there backs, normally you want around 20 hens to 1 rooster, no less than 10:1 unless free ranged.

As far as chickens go it's cheaper to buy them at Rural King if you have any near you, I buy all my stuff from RK, they have the best prices on Chick Starter and chicken supplies. I have ordered over 30 chicks from murray mcmurray hatchery out of Iowa I believe, chicks are more expensive but they have a large variety of breeds, I had about 6 of there chicks die on me from something I did, I told them that when I asked about it, I said I have them gutter water and lost 6 chicks in under 24h and was curious if it was just mine or they had other reports of a bad batch of birds, they said we have gotten no reports but will refund your money for all 6 chicks, I never even asked for a refund, I just wanted info and they only warrant the chicks for 24 or 48 hours, it was like 5 days at this point lol, I was shocked they offered to refund so quickly.

Anyway I have had americana/ araucana (Easter Eggers), australorps, Turkins (Transylvanian naked neck's), ISA Browns (Rhode Island red/Rhode Island white cross), Leg horns and Amberlinks.

The best production layers are the crosses like EE's, ISA Browns ext, best full bred layers are Rhode Island Reds (brown egg) and leghorn (white egg)

If you want a blue layer stick with EE's, McMurray has True Blue Whitings that a poultry geneticist came up with for feathers, he breeds chickens for fly fishing feathers, well he made a new breed a few years back that lays a blue egg, vary rare gene. I posted on backyardchickens forum a year or so ago and many people that ordered them were not happy, biggest complaint was lower than expected egg production and they were too wild and flighty.

The Terkins are a cool breed, very hard to get a hold of, I waited over 2 months before RK got my hen chicks in but they were my fav chickens, I had one turkin rooster that was sent free by McMurray when I ordered my EE's and that was the smartest and best rooster that I ever saw, he was so protective of his hens, never was aggressive towards me and for a chicken, that guy was smart as a whip, I called him turkin and every time I said that he put his head up and looked at me, he was all the time leading the hens in my barn when I had it open looking for feed and all I did was stand still, point out the door, say "Turken get out" and he would look over and run out the door lol, all the hens would follow him out, it was funny, that bird was a trip. I thought highly enough about him I ordered 14 turkin hens from RK, there not great layers but are neat birds, ugly and unique.

Chickens are a blast, there stupider than a box of rocks but are hilarious to watch, I thought it was funny watching the neighbors cattle get territorial and chase my chickens back to my pasture , when I got cattle later on they became protective of my chickens.

The chickens always free ranged with the cattle, mine or my neighbors but I never understood why until I saw a big fox chasing my chickens one morning, I let my birds free range 24/7 for the last 7 months at this point, but this fox was after my hens and my cattle were after the fox , I lost I believe 3 birds in 7 months, in the last month I had the chickens I lost 2 so I sold the chickens, that was 3 months ago and there is still two back there, they were roosting in a neighbors tree when I cleaned out my coop, they showed back up at my barn two days later and have been back there ever since, I see them every day, little survivors lol. I'll feed them in the winter if there still back there by then.

I have one stall door open for the cattle to hang out in a stall, the coop was a 3rd connected stall so the hens have access to the roosts and nesting boxes if they want, I think they prefer the tree most nights, there's a creek they get water from and they eat grass, bugs and all the corn my and neighbors cattle drops. There healthy birds.
 
   / Chickens #19  
The only reason I can think that you would want a rooster is if you wish to have fertilized eggs. I personally found roosters to be a pain the @*%#. They crow all night. And, if you have any neighbors nearby, they will complain. A bunch of hens without a rooster are more tranquil.

One thing to consider is it depends on the breed. We've got about ~6 roosters on our property with two that are fully grown, yeah they crow in the morning but you quickly tune it out. Our Salmon Favorelles have never jumped at us and are pretty timid, however the Basque rooster we had was really aggressive and was turned into dinner the second time he tried to come for my wife. She took care of him real quick.

Research the breeds if you want to consider having a rooster around. We're pretty happy with our Salmon Faverolles.
 
   / Chickens #20  
Lots of good advice already given. My wife has become a "crazy chicken lady" We started out with one coop built from a cyclone fence dog kennel given to me by a client. I added a roof and nesting boxes to one side. I put some branches in the middle of it for them to sleep and all was good. I think we had about two dozen chickens in there. Half where rhode island reds, the other half where bardrocks. The bardrocks fought all the time and pecked at each other. She was constantly putting ointment on their backs. We didn't have a rooster at first either. I think we where getting a dozen eggs a day out of two dozen birds.

Then I built another coop where she could keep her easter eggers and olive eggers. She wanted different colored eggs and loved seeing the different breeds. The smaller bantam chickens turned out to be the most aggressive. The silkies the sweetest. With all the new chickens, we ended up with more roosters. Probably half where roosters. Of those half, most turned into monsters!!!! Once they reach that age, they are worthless to eat. Tough, and almost no meat on their bones. You have to kill them, or they will never stop attacking the hens, and even worse, my wife and I. Fortunately, not all of them where monsters. We have four nice roosters now.

We also started letting them out during the day to free range. This solved all our pecking issues inside the coops. The bardrocks are great layers and if they have enough space, hang out with each other and leave the other hens alone. They form little groups and each group does their own thing. Every night, just before dark, they all come back into their coops and hop up on a branch to sleep the night. They sleep all night and never make a sound when it's dark out. First thing in the morning, I let them out.

After a failed year of trying to incubate eggs, she decided to let the broody ones just sit on their eggs. One chicken would sit on two dozen eggs. I think we ended up with about 50 that hatched this year. The day they hatch, we take them into are garden kitchen, dip their beaks in the water and leave them in a dog kennel with food and a heat lamp until their feathers come in. Then they go to the coop, into another dog kennel for a few weeks. Then they are let free and they become part of the flock. We're close to a hundred birds now and will probably double that in the next year or two. We will have to remove some more roosters in the next couple of months, and hawks have taken three so far this year. We have a hot wire around 11 acres to protect those inside it from coyotes and foxes, but they spend a lot of time outside the fence too. Some will just keep wondering until a coyote finds them, but most stay close to the house. The ones that stay close will live very long lives, and hopefully train the new ones to stick around too.

We're getting about 3 dozen eggs per day now. Our dogs eat a dozen every day. We sell a few, and we have more then I can count stored in the fridge. We're good on eggs, but once school starts back up and my wife goes back to work, she will sell all of what we have to the other teachers and staff working there.

As for the original question, I built my boxes out of 3/4 inch plywood. They are 12 inches. One 8 foot piece of plywood will give you 8 boxes, or four boxes. For all you are doing, four boxes is plenty. Just cut the bottom about 16 inches so there is a lip, make the back and top 12 inches and cut the ends and dividers 12 inch square. Put a two inch lip in front of the box to keep the straw in there or they will scratch it out. Most will use the same box. Why? I have no idea, but once one lays an egg in a box, the others want to lay in the same box next to that egg. We'll pick up a dozen eggs out of one box, one in another, three in another and another dozen in another. With most boxes never being used.

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