Chains & binders

[coolbrze]

Need to purchase some chains & binders for a Kubota MX5800 w/ FEL & rotary cutter. What kind/size should I buy & from where? Not familiar w/ C&Bs so any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[Peter 315]

5/16 or 3/8 grade 70 transport chains 16' or 20' long with ratchet binders I use 20' long because use them for other things . Look on ebay or amazon for prices

 

[davedj1]

And to add to the above statements, get 4, you want one off each corner. It's not acceptable to have one chain going across the machine from side to side. Do yourself a favor and get the ratchet type binders. I bought mine at Home Depot.

 

[bcp]

You can use two long chains. Just use the two end 1/3's with slack in the middle.

See the first photo here:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...-tie-down-bx2350-post4188344.html#post4188344

Bruce

 

[Dftodd]

4 chains and binders is required on equipment 10,000 lbs and higher. Under 10,000 lbs, only one chain and binder is required front and back per federal guidelines. Each state may have different guidelines, so you need to make sure and check your state.

That being said, you also need to make sure and strap down each attachment. This means a strap over your bucket, and one on the rotary cutter.

The reason being if your in an accident, everything stays attached to the trailer instead of flailing around.

Here's an example using my old L1501 before the restore. Couldn't find my current pictures

 

[coolbrze]

Thanks guys. Do you recommend 3/8 or 5/16? What about ratcheting binders or lever binders? Is this acceptable chain or not?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbil...70-Tow-Chain-with-Grab-Hooks-803082/203958797

 

[newbury]

Thanks guys. Do you recommend 3/8 or 5/16? Is this acceptable chain or not?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbil...70-Tow-Chain-with-Grab-Hooks-803082/203958797

That's good but HF is less expensive Harbor Freight Tools Coupon Database - Free coupons, 25 percent off coupons, toolbox coupons - 5/16" x 20 FT. GRADE 70 TRUCKER'S CHAIN

 

[downsizingnow48]

Home Depot chain is what I use. I ask them to cut it in half in the store to make two 10 ft lengths. Handier for the four corners of the tractor and across implements.

 

[MoMower]

There’s a listing on EBay, cheaper than HF.

 

[Wsmitty]

Home Depot chain is what I use. I ask them to cut it in half in the store to make two 10 ft lengths. Handier for the four corners of the tractor and across implements.

I did the same on the chains. I got my ratchet binders from Rural King. I had them shipped as the local store was out of stock. Ended up about $25 each shipped. BTW the ones I received are red not the fluorescent lime color shown thankfully.

Baron Ratchet Load Binder 5/16" - 3/8" RLB51638 : Rural King

 

[RichM752]

I've found this eBay store to be the best for prices and fast free delivery.

Great deals from Harriscos LLC in Chain-Truck-Transport-Chains- | eBay Stores

 

[J.Wal]

I went to a local shop, payed cash and got 5 binders, 4 10’ 3/8” chains for right at $200..... paying cash helps!

 

[BrokenTrack]

Personally I think with the invention of screw and ratcheting binders, lever-binders should go the way of the doo-doo bird. They are just too dangerous. It takes a piece of pipe to lever them down, then when you take them off you get a face-full of lever under amazing tension. Many a teeth and facial surgery have resulted from them.

Best to stay away in my opinion...

 

[coolbrze]

Personally I think with the invention of screw and ratcheting binders, lever-binders should go the way of the doo-doo bird. They are just too dangerous. It takes a piece of pipe to lever them down, then when you take them off you get a face-full of lever under amazing tension. Many a teeth and facial surgery have resulted from them.

Best to stay away in my opinion...

Thanks, ratcheting it is!

 

[Fallon]

I have both cheap HF class ratcheting & lever, types. I also picked up a pair of good American made ratcheting ones with folding handles. I rarely use the lever ones for the tractor. I'll use them for quick stuff without a lot of force, like holding on my bucket spade, or an extra chain over an impliment that is mounted to the tractor already. I dont feel to bad about not putting max force on the lever binders that way.

My standard tractor chaining procedures are as follows:
Drive tractor with impliments onto trailer & go to far forward.
Attach my 2 short chains to bumper mounted clevises.
Put tractor in 4wd & low range.
Back up until tires start spinning & the front end squats an inch or 2 then power the 3pt
Apply parking brake.
2 rear chains to the rear corners of the machine (over the top of any impliment if they will stay put & not drastically change the angle on the chain) & tighten them with my good American ratchet binders.
Lower the loader in front
If I'm going far I toss a chain over the loader & either use a lever binder or cheap ratchet binder, but dont worry about going as tight as the tractor chains.
Depending on the impliment on the back & how far I'm going I may toss another chain & random binder on like with the loader.

I only use the gold grade 70 (transport or trucker) chain. It doesn't rust as easily & is the appropriate grade for chaining stuff to a trailer. Not to mention it's a bit stronger than the lower grades.

The total of all your chain ratings should be equal or greater than your load.

 

[PILOON]

Always liked the 'back up and squat' trick!
Also when tying back the rear you can actually get by with only one binder.

With lever binders It is always good insurance to tie back the lever with a bungee or some wire because if they loosen a bit the lever can pop open and then your tractor is really free.

Always recheck after driving a few miles or a short period as often what you thought was tight often is not really so.

 

[bdog]

5/16 is plenty. With four 5/16 grade 70 chains you can legally secure something weighing up to 18,800 lbs. nothing wrong with 3/8 but it is noticeably heavier to handle. I have chains of both sizes and use both depending on the task at hand.

If the only thing you will haul is your tractor I would suggest cutting the chains to the proper length. Makes things a lot simpler than using a 20’ chain when one 5’ would suffice.

 

[sandman2234]

If you cut your chains to 5 footers, how close will you have to be to use the tractor to pull out your truck next time you get it stuck? I prefer a little longer chain for most of my efforts, other than tying the tractor down.
David from jax

 

[coolbrze]

Thanks again everyone. I've got 2 extra 20' 5/16" grade 70 chains from Home Depot so I'll cut them in half which will give me 4 10'ers which should do the trick. Maybe buy 2 more, 1 for the FEL & 1 for the cutter unless you think I can safely & legally get away w/ HD ratchet straps for those? Need to buy the ratcheting binders this week. Picking up my MX5800 later in the week & I'm stoked!

 

[bdog]

If you cut your chains to 5 footers, how close will you have to be to use the tractor to pull out your truck next time you get it stuck? I prefer a little longer chain for most of my efforts, other than tying the tractor down.
David from jax

Yes if they will be the only chains you own don’t cut them. I have different chains for different purposes. No joke I bet I have at least fifty if not more. I have four machines I haul regularly and each has its own appropriately sized chains cut to length.