What I said was, "from all I have seen and experienced...", which was not <font color="blue"> wrong </font> . Branson has had some very good incentives and in my area Centuries are higher. I have some limited internet experience which also indicated Centuries were higher. And the fact is, when a 10 series has the C-50 loader on it, it HAS to be higher because it's a more expensive loader (unless someone's giving it away). I will agree, however, that they are both very good values and I am sure sometimes the Bransons are higher, depending on the dealer. </font><font color="blue" class="small">( probably because of the dealers pricing policies )</font>. For the consumer, it doesn't really matter why the price is different, as long as its lower! I do understand your point about the supplier end, but I stand by what I said. When I was looking, between November 2002 and February 2003, Bransons in my area and beyond were priced lower.