CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg !

   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #21  
I presently rent to 3 families that lost their homes... they are all great tenants... two were previous tenants and got caught up in the now or never time to buy about 6 years ago and the other owned the home across the street from me...

I shifted a portion to commercial... it was great for many years... no late night or weekend emergencies and commercial is most NNN so not a lot of maintenance...

It's been a rough couple of years... a Circuit City and a Borders Store went belly up...

Residential rentals are no walk in the park... started with a one page rental agreement that is now 28 pages, also rent control, business licenses, rental taxes and new mandatory programs to replace sewer laterals has taken a toll...

I had thought about getting out totally... now, it is at least something to fall back on...
 
   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #22  
When the stock market tanks and the S&P gets to around 800 start buying Utilities.
You can easily get 6% yields with upside potential, You can get a 6% yield now on ATT-T, five plus % on VZ,DUK, MANY OTHERS.
The Banker's are CROOKS everything today is crooked.

I bought a Utility ETF 3 years ago in 08. my return was 4% but that wasnt "unrealized return" (ie the value of the stock goes up but you havnt sold so you dont make any money) that was REALIZED return. meaning cash paid to me in terms of dividends. So i could actually see my account balance grow despite the overall stock price stayed relativity the same. :thumbsup:

Read an interesting artical by one of the financial guys that was talking about the current problem of cash hording by companies. As the FDIC insurance covers ALL deposits no matter what ammount till 2012, companies with billions of dollars of cash are happy to just keep it sitting in a bank. Buying treasuries and essentially takeing a 1.2 percent loss (as inflation is about 1.2%) so the only way the fed can make them move that cash out of the bank and leverage its value (jobs, capital spending, research etc) is to offer a NEGATIVE interest rate.

a big bank recently did just that, and imposed a 0.8% FEE to maintain any cash accounts with a ballance of more than $50 Billion. And you thought your checking fees sucked!
 
   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #23  
I'm already buying utilities and my last cd that pays 6 percent is about due. My IRA manager knows not to bother calling me about a purchase unless it pays a dividend. Look at TEF dividend record. They split 3/1 shortly after I bought and have lost about 5 bucks since but with that dividend percent being paid I'm not real concerned. Maybe should be but not at the moment.
 
   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #24  
I got into the market just over 3 years ago, this last 6 months been bad for me but the first two years were pretty good making better than half my wages up. I have a good bunch of 4+% stock dividend payers but I did buy a bunch of FRO and BAC this spring and are getting killed in both of them. Initially I bought riskier assets for the high returns. Now I go for several items. one dividends two companies that are in the process of getting bought out but still trading under the book/buyout mergers. CEG constellation energy is getting bought out the premium has been running about 7% with a 4th quarter expected close. this is how I also got most of my FE First Energy holdings they were buying out a smaller utility that didt pay a dividend. that was somewhere around 8% premium that took 4 or 5 months to come to. since then the stock I received of FE is up close to 15% even at this crummy market in last 6 months with paying a 3 or 4% dividend.

waiting for CEG to close and also looking at BBB which is getting bought out and last week was a 8 or 9% gain at the market price it was trading at when it is waiting for the buyout to complete.

Mark
 
   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #25  
I've got rental properties as well...we are in the same boat and I have been thinking about buying more at these prices...my Mrs. is against it at our age, like you, so I am hesitant , I really dread the tenant experience anymore..know what I mean..?

And for years the government worked against you in the rental business because they were giving people grants for down payments and guarantees for loans which the borrower could not repay and keeping interest rates low, too.

Everyone like me who ad a few rentals were being fought by the federal government on all fronts.

Today it's even worse because all that is still happening and the fed is monitoring debt and keeping interest rates artificially low to help the big wall street banks. This is done at the expense of the smaller 'main street' banks and normal people depending on interest for retirement.

When all the big banks and fat cats get everything bought up from everyone else the fed will raise the interest rates, freezing out any small investors from getting good buys and making everything you buy more expensive.
 
   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #26  
Fixemall, " I only buy duplexes with large yards and only rent to people who were foreclosed on or did short sales and do not want to live in apartments "


On selling to your tenants...don't count on that as a sure thing...I had a tenant in one of my houses that had been there for 16 yrs. and he bought a foreclosed house for way less than I could sell him the house he had been renting...nice thought but so many things can go wrong...

There are a lot of things to go wrong but there are always back up plans, this lousy economy has flooded the rental market with good folks that are in bad situations, I had 23 applications last time I had and open unit. Another of the things I'm looking at is building small cottages/houses that would be ranch style and fully handicap accessable but don't look the part, lots of folks are downsizing and aging, not to mention the huge amount of men and women that have sacrificed limbs for this country...I think the demand for independent living will skyrocket in the next ten years.
 
   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #27  
We currently have 7 renters, its pointless to put money in the bank, when we buy one we buy it right and pay cash. We have I bonds, I rarely buy them now, the old ones are paying well up to 6%, latest ones I bought paid 2.60 and now they have lowered the amount you can buy to $5000 each from $30000 years ago. Some money is in a money market, some in 401K, its not doing well now, some IRA's that were rolled over are in CD's, sad situation on earnings. But our rentals are doing well. I will not get into stocks, I do hold about $10k of Walmart that's the only one. The market used to have stocks that were value with the likes of Big Blue, GM, Ford, companies like those, now its gambling and I don't gamble with our money.

We are looking at buying 2 more if I can get them right. Also after hubby retires we have 6 lake lots, not on the water, but they were for RV's. We have one RV rented and another we need to get ready to rent. Both of those we will rent are 35 ft old Silver Streaks but nice RV's. We intend to put 4 more up there and rent them out. Older single ladies and men or young singles or even a couple are going to need something they can afford. Rent prices here are pretty high.

I screen carefully with the help of my old realtor. I have good tenants all, most have been with us 10 and 12 years. The last 2 going on 2 years now and another a year. I don't have any problems with late payments. The rental market has changed drastically. I used to get sterling credit. Now I know 99% of what I get has their credit destroyed. I'm not concerned, I find out why. If its a house foreclosure or medical bills and hasn't occurred recently and they are not continuing to wrack up bills, I will take them, but only after a personal interview. I am a pretty good judge of character, only had one eviction in 15 years. They were the only ones I didn't get a chance to interview. I let my realtor handle it, when I met them I told her they won't be here long, she said oh they are good people. Didn't last 3 months before they started breaking rules on the lease. I am a good landlord, yes I will pat myself on the back. We take care of issues quickly, but mainly make sure the house is in excellent condition before we rent. I do not rent to smokers ever, to people with pets never. In fact its written into the lease a $500 fine for bringing one in $20 a day extra and eviction proceedings will be started immediately. Have bought houses practicall destroyed by dogs and many void your insurance now. Also I stipulate the length of time guests can stay and the number of vehicles. When you have your expectations set up front then they know what is expected of them. We provide nice, energy efficient housing and expect renters to take care of it.

I don't jack rents a good renter in hand is worth many in the bush! And we treat our renters nice. We are pretty much friends with all of them yet they know I expect them to pay and take care of the property. I have black, white, and hispanic, single moms, and older people, and one working away from home. I'm pretty diverse. I was an accountant so I take care of the books and all the tax issues. When hubby is home he does all the maintenance, when he is gone if we need something I have a guy I can hire to fix things. So far its worked well. I have only had 1 late night call over a gas leak and we got that repaired quickly. AC this summer has been something I have received more calls on then anything since we have had them.

I don't mind it, but I told hubby if I die he better sell, he is not the same judge of character as I am.
 
   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #28  
Visited Well Fargo today... they bought the bank that bought the bank that I opened a CD with 3 years ago.

Anyway... the CD rate is less than the Credit Union Checking rates.

The Bank person said most of her customers are going for 4 year to get the 1.5% interest knowing they can break the CD anytime by forfeiting 6 months of interest which at 1.5% isn't much...
 
   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #29  
Visited Well Fargo today... they bought the bank that bought the bank that I opened a CD with 3 years ago.

Anyway... the CD rate is less than the Credit Union Checking rates.

The Bank person said most of her customers are going for 4 year to get the 1.5% interest knowing they can break the CD anytime by forfeiting 6 months of interest which at 1.5% isn't much...

I am thinking of moving my savings and checking either to a CU or online. The local bank we have had for 25 years pays nothing and is charging for everything. They are basically bankrupt.
 
   / CD - Certificate of Deposit Interest Rates --Ugggg ! #30  
I am thinking of moving my savings and checking either to a CU or online. The local bank we have had for 25 years pays nothing and is charging for everything. They are basically bankrupt.

Mine is like that except they are making money...

Charges for everything and some charges have more than doubled in the last year...

So far, I'm pleased with the Credit Union... going to sponsor some family members or at least offer it as a suggestion...

It won't be as convenient because a few steps from where I work is a cluster of banks...

The Credit Union is 20 miles away but supposedly I can make deposits at any credit union they are affiliated.

I don't know how long it will last... there is a huge push from Banks to rein in Credit Unions... kind of like the Bailey Building and Loan in the classic "It's a Wonderful Life"
 

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