Case 580e -where do I add hydraulic fluid?
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Heywood Jannockitov
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Right-hand side adjacent to the fuel tank on top of the cowl. You'll see a cap that when you unscrew, will have a long dipstick attached. Your shuttle and transaxle are separate. This reservoir is for loader and hoe. Power shuttle is checked with a dipstick (oil must be at operating temp and with engine running at low idle. Transaxle oil level is checked under a plate on the floor in front of the transmission shifter. You are getting yourself a service/maint manual, right?
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thank you Heywood! I did think that might be the cap but was unsure. I posted the question, took the dog for a walk and came back to find this extremely helpful answer and more!
I may not have to get a manual now that I found you! Actually yes I want to download one from trade-it but I need a better internet connection before I do. I originally thought I might have to replace the belleville spring in the forward clutch, but yesterday as I was checking fluids I discovered the shuttle was at least 2 quarts low, I've been adding to it slowly and checking like you described, and it's now at least showing on the dipstick. I think the previous owner was checking it when warm, but not running because that did indicate on the dipstick. I'm hoping that solves the issue of it slowing down in forward when warm.
I may not have to get a manual now that I found you! Actually yes I want to download one from trade-it but I need a better internet connection before I do. I originally thought I might have to replace the belleville spring in the forward clutch, but yesterday as I was checking fluids I discovered the shuttle was at least 2 quarts low, I've been adding to it slowly and checking like you described, and it's now at least showing on the dipstick. I think the previous owner was checking it when warm, but not running because that did indicate on the dipstick. I'm hoping that solves the issue of it slowing down in forward when warm.
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Bob, this should help. Mine is a 1986 580 Super E, cummins 4bt, 2wd.
Good luck! Great machines
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well I just went out to check the hydraulic fluid and that cap just lifts out, it has a rubber plug that loosely sits in the hole but no dipstick attached. I don't suppose you could tell me how wide the dipstick should be and the distance from the cap to the full and add marks? I don't know why the tractor is this way, it's the same thing with the engine oil dipstick, it's been replaced with a dipstick heater so no idea if the level is right.
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If the dipstick heater is acting as a dipstick, now that you know the engine oil capacity (assuming Cummins 4BT non-turbo), do an oil change with filter, use the exact amt specified, run the engine until warm, shut off and let sit for 5 minutes. Check the oil level on the dipstick heater and scribe a mark on it where the oil level is. The missing dipstick on the hydraulic tank may not be a huge deal. It is simply a large reservoir and there is probably not a lot of harm if it is overfilled anyway(?) That is just an uneducated guess on my part though. The dipstick on mine if I recall is about 2 feet long with the add to fill marks being (from memory) maybe an inch apart. I can check when I get home from work.
That would be great if you could measure for me. I stuck a metal strip down it as far as it would go, 42.5 inches and the fluid, a murky yellow, was only up 10 inches. Seems like a lot of wasted space there unless it expands when hot or it's low. Previous owner said he used Napa Hydraulic Fluid, I got travellers premium universal tractor trans hydraulic fluid, there shouldn't be a problem with adding mine to the existing fluid should there?
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I'll certainly do that for you. I'll measure the distance from the bottom of the cap to the full mark on the dipstick. I'll take a pic if it is not too dark by the time I get home. Any good trans-hydraulic fluid would be fine. The tank is huge probably to accommodate all the displaced fluid that has to move in and out of all the rather large hyd. cylinders on the machine as they are being operated. Case TCH fluid is called for (Torque Converter Hydraulic fluid) which I believe is the same as any good trans hydraulic fluid. John Deere HyGard would work too, but it ain't cheap. If you had a suction pump or a MityVac, maybe I would suck out the old stuff as much as I could from the tank, then refill with new stuff.
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OK, here are some pics.
So, the Hydraulic tank dipstick is 20.5 inches long with the full mark about 15.5 inches below the cap. It says right on the dipstick: "3.8 litres or 1 US gallon between the ADD and FULL marks. Do not Overfill"
I forgot to take a picture of the eng oil dipstick. I can do that too if you want, but I won't have time until tomorrow.
Hope that helps!
So, the Hydraulic tank dipstick is 20.5 inches long with the full mark about 15.5 inches below the cap. It says right on the dipstick: "3.8 litres or 1 US gallon between the ADD and FULL marks. Do not Overfill"
I forgot to take a picture of the eng oil dipstick. I can do that too if you want, but I won't have time until tomorrow.
Hope that helps!
oh that most definitely helps. Thank you. I'm considerably low. I'll make a workable dipstick that will get me by until I can find a replacement. If you can do the same thing with the engine oil then I can mark my heater dip stick. It looks cold there, I'm in northern arizona and expecting a little snow tonight but nothing like the temps you get.