Tiller caroni tiller

dpm · Mar 26, 2003

I'm looking for some feedback on the Caroni brand rototillers please. As anyone who reads TBN knows, there has been plenty of discussion on the First Choice tillers, but would also like to compare these to the Caroni as they seem to be similar to each other.

Thanks.

tdenny · Mar 26, 2003

If memory serves me correctly, I think Pieter at Buy Smart told me that the First Choice tillers are in fact made by Caroni. According to my better half though my memory is not so good.

dpm · Mar 26, 2003

I think the First choice, Kioti brand tillers are made by Sicma. It is possible Sicma and Caroni are somehow related.

jlbash1 · Mar 26, 2003

Don't know much about who makes what other than I own a Caroni 48" tiller and it works quite well. Just used it yesterday as a matter of fact. I've had it for 3 years now and it's tilled several acres by now.

good luck

tdenny · Mar 26, 2003

Now that I think about it you might be right about Sicma. See I told you my memory wasn't too good.

Anonymous Poster · Mar 26, 2003

Hello TD--What size were you needing--We switched to First Choice about 3 years ago and we do have some Caroni closeout models, in limited sizes and Qty--Ken Sweet
Sweet Farm Equipment Co.

tdenny · Mar 26, 2003

Ken,

Not me looking for the tiller (I already have a small one that I will never be able to use it for anything other than rock throwing contests). Mine's a Maschio type L. I think DPM is the one looking for Caroni info. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

rlk · Mar 26, 2003

DPM
I have had one for about 6 years now, and have never had a problem with it. It has given great service, however, I don't have a lot of use for it. Use it in the spring to get the garden ready, then again in the fall after the garden is over.

Did use it on a 1.5 acre lot right after I bought it, and it handled that 1.5 acres with no problem.

I got mine thru AgriSupply in Garner, NC.
Bob

thcri · Mar 26, 2003

Ken, I wouldn't mind you throwing me a price for one of them Caroni's for my TC29D. I have an neighbor that has a tiller and I can use it anytime I want. My problem is I do want to till up about 1/2 acre this summer and I know there is rocks in there about the size of oh 3" to 5" and I don't want to wreck my neighbors tiller. I know if I buy one he will be ticked off at me but I think he would understand.

murph
thcri@qwest.net

HayDR · Mar 26, 2003

Caroni is not a First Choice,(Sicma), tiller. Caroni, Sitrex, DeL Morino, Tecna, Befco, Sovema, Muratori, Maletti & Maschio use some of the same suppliers and components so some models look alike.

JohnMiller3 · Mar 26, 2003

Sicma), tiller. Caroni, Sitrex, DeL Morino, Tecna, Befco, Sovema, Muratori, Maletti & Maschio ... 

Hey Mark,

Do you speak Italian...? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

These units are becoming so homogenized... they all are looking about the same... (on the surface...)

What companies are Woods and LandPride importing from?

Lastly, isn't the KingKutter tiller and mower Ohio,USA made?

HayDR · Mar 26, 2003

Woods & Bush Hog are Maletti products. LP purchases some side gear boxes from Italy, Tines from Azzimondi, Center gearboxes from China and Italy.
The King Kutter tiller has an Italian center gearbox with a Chinese Side gearbox. The tines I believe are Chinese or Indian now. The king Kutter is mechanically sound but the fit and finish is not that good. The King kutter finish mower used all Chinese components. I do think they may purchase Azzimondi blades. It's just a small world in AG.

kyoders · Mar 27, 2003

I've had an FL1200 (~48") for about a year now. The only thing I don't like about it is the way the offset is done. There are two fixed points where you can bolt the top-link mast, and the lower link clevises can be adjusted anywhere along a front bar.

The problem is, in either position, the top-link mast does not allow the gear box to line up directly behind the PTO. The end result is that in either position, the PTO shaft is angled, even when perfectly level. On my BX, this extra angling causes problems when raising the tiller, because the combined offset is too much for the shaft to turn without binding up. The problem is particularly severe with a BX because the PTO shaft has to be cut rather short to fit my tractor. I have to make sure that I have the PTO disengaged before raising the tiller too far (about 2/3rds full height). Now that I'm used to it, it isn't that big of a deal, but I still would rather it not be an issue.

Other than that, I've been pleased with the tiller. I don't have a lot of area to till, but every square inch of it is rock-infested. So far, the abuse does not seem to be a problem. I got it from Agri-Supply for I believe $970, including tax and shipping.

Kevin

Anonymous Poster · Mar 27, 2003

It's just a small world in AG. 

Hi Mark- I agree, it is indeed, a small world in ag, albiet different----When I started in the machinery business 26 years ago, it seemed there were a lot more mfgrs and most were vertically intigrated. The consumer would buy only the color that daddy had used--however--today, most of the new equipment and tractor lines are outsourced for components parts and assembled where there is a cheap labor source and, or a subsidized government incenitive--It is really a shame that many Consumers still have a desire to be brand loyal, and really, there are not many companies to be loyal to--It is a different world today, for sure!!--Ken Sweet
Sweet Farm Equipment Co.

Anonymous Poster · Mar 27, 2003

Now that we are on the who made who list... WHO makes the NEW HOLLAND Tillers?

HayDR · Mar 27, 2003

Maletti makes NH tillers

JEP · Mar 27, 2003

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The King Kutter tiller has an Italian center gearbox with a Chinese Side gearbox. The tines I believe are Chinese or Indian now. The king Kutter is mechanically sound but the fit and finish is not that good. The King kutter finish mower used all Chinese components. I do think they may purchase Azzimondi blades. It's just a small world in AG. )

I visited the local TSC yesterday. The KK 5' tiller has tines on it that says Spain. These are also on sale til April 1 for $900 in some stores.