Canning question

/ Canning question #41  
Actually went making jelly I use sealing wax. It's the old way.

Yep, I'd say that's the old way, and of course it works. We used to use that method when I was a kid, but I haven't seen that done now in about 55 years.:D The whole idea was to prevent mold from forming on top of the jelly, and the easier way to get that result is when you pour the jelly into the sterilized jars and tighten the lids, turn the jars upside down for about 5 minutes, them turn them back right side up to finish cooling and jelling. What is it in the air that causes mold? mold spores? Is that right? Anyway, turning the jars upside down while they're hot kills whatever it is and no mold.

When I was a kid, we actually had two cellars; one was where all the canned goods was kept. The other was for storing potatoes and a storm cellar.

My paternal grandparents had one of the few houses in the area with a basement, so of course, my granddad built shelves to store canned goods on. My Grandmother died in 1967 and my Grandfather died in 1973 and my parents inherited the house. A few years later, I was helping clean out the basement and found a pint jar of plum jelly my Grandmother had made and labelled over 20 years earlier. It had turned a darker color than I would have expected, but I found it was still good and I ate it.:D
 
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Woldn't you like to hear some of the stories those old jar heard Bird.:) My In laws and their parents all got together and canned. They too did the parafane wax jelly sealing. May be the old way but it worked. As you had mentioned earlier we to and I guess most anybody who canned had their jar collection go up and down over the years. Then one day they just start to show back up.
 
/ Canning question #43  
We lived in southern rural Indiana. Heck we didn't have indoor plumbing until I was in 8th grade. We did the outhouse routine, the coal stove deal, I learned to get one going and keep it going good. Used a wringer washer, hung clothes out in the winter till they froze on the line. Remember pants stretchers? Mom said when I was little, of course I don't remember that, she made some clothes for me from the flour sacks or chicken feed sacks. They would get it in material that women made clothes out of.

I remember dad butchering a hog. We would take meat to a local grocer and he would grind it into sausage meat. Mom would bring it home add seasonings, fresh sage, salt, and pepper. She would cook it down and can a lot of it. Then dad would sugar cure the hams and bacon in the smoke house. That stuff had enough salt in it to make you pucker, so she soaked the hams to get some out, but it was still real good eatin'. Mom would also make head cheese, all that stuff was good. We had cracklins'. He didn't do the butchering to many times, took it to the slaughter house but until we got a freezer that was what was done with it. We would get a can of lard back too. Mom would sometimes complain that it was from an old boar as we bought young pigs and the lard from them has hardly any odor at all.

My great aunt and uncle cooked on a cookstove and the food she made. I remember her light bread, out of this world. They were old when I was in my early teens, wish I remembered or had asked more. I remember Aunt Dodie telling me some stories about her mom, she was a little girl in the civil war. And she would tell me about them Yankees! My dads family was Kentucky Hill folk.:cool: And uncle hunted as did dad some. We had frog legs, sometimes turtle, if dad found one. Mom would put out rabbit boxes, we had lots of rabbit, and we fished for blue gill and crappie. They would also buy carp or catfish from fishermen at Riverton and places on the Wabash. Dad shot squirrels but wasn't the best shot, we were still picking shot out when eating, mom tried to get it out.:D I can remember my aunt cooking raccoon, mom liked to died, and also eel a few times, that we did not eat.

Aunt would get mushrooms, different ones, and things like dock, and other stuff in the woods, but dad was afraid to let us eat some of that stuff. She knew all kinds of edible stuff you could get from the woods. But we did hunt and eat morel mushrooms, nothing better then those. Those folks lived on everything cooked in lard, he had been a coal miner, drank beer, and he smoked a pipe and she used snuff. They lived to be almost 90.

Mom would soak squirrel in salt water to take out the wild taste and then cook it in the pressure cooker after browning it. I still remember her putting a piece of bread on top of it to take more wild taste out. The squirrel and gravy was to die for.

Hey anyone remember wallpaper cleaner? It looked kind of like stilly putty. You would take a handful and rub it over your wallpaper, it was clean the winter smoke off the wallpaper that got on it from the coal stove. My folks were older when they had me, showing my age aren't I?
 
/ Canning question #44  
when we have a big canning weekend planed i set up an outside kitchen. I do the large stuff (jar pre-boil and post boil) on the turkey fryer base. puts out tons of btu to heat the water up quickly and keeps all that heat out of the house im trying to cool in the middle of summer.
 
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Patriotic Stabilist thanks for the background family information. Really neat stuff. Ya know someone is going to ask if you have any sisters.:D
 
/ Canning question #46  
Anybody canned eggs? Was quite common in Czech to keep eggs semi fresh for the winter. It was not like pickled eggs, when you pull them out, they were like normal eggs.
 
/ Canning question #47  
No, but I can sliced green tomatoes. They are delicious, drained, dipped in flour and fried in the winter.
 
/ Canning question #48  
They have a big market up at Hempstead, Texas. I need to check it out and see if they have strawberries. Need to make jam or jelly if they do and freeze some, I need a bigger freezer, just bought a small one.

I hope the next couple of years to have grapes from my grapevines, don't know if 3 vines will be enough to do that with. Have no idea how well grapes will do here.
 
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I think I found a work around for the flat top stove canning issue. This link, Canners for Glass and Ceramic-Top Stoves does have some useful information on alternative heating methods etc. I'm not sure I agree with the placing of a water bath between two burner idea but some of the other ideas are doable. I'm not endorsing any of the information provided just passing along what I have found.

We went out yesterday to see what was availible as a canning alternative for flat top stoves and really didn't find anything different then this group has provided. Many people were not told they couldn't use a flat top stove to can with while others have said they do it anyway. :rolleyes: Most of these people said they had a small "batch" of whatever and didn't use the stove all day like their parents and grandparents did. One man said they wait until a "nice" weekend and can with a turkey fryer outside. I thought you canned when the veggies were nice, not the weather. :rolleyes:Another retail store employee told me they have heard it is an issue with the 1) weight, 2) the high heat required, 3) a temperature sensor that won't allow a burner to stay on, they fluctuate, and 4) some canners are larger in diameter then the burner and puts heat where it shouldn't be. All of these points are also mentioned in the link so I'd say someone has done their homework too.

It would be wonderful if a trusted name like Ball or Kerr would come out with something that addressed this issue. Something like the burners etc mentioned in the link provided. As more people can this year, or so the news is leading us to believe; it looks like many people may be putting up produce not properly prepared for storeage and with equipment, techniques etc that may be dangerous.:eek:

I hope the information is helpful to others.
 
/ Canning question #50  
We have been talking about a turkey fryer for both frying and now canning. I did do a search and found this one at Walmart.
Walmart.com: Masterbuilt Digital Electric Turkey Fryer: Grills & Outdoor Cooking

Looks good, and it is electric so if I had to can inside no issue with fire etc. The better halve has her homework now.............find something to can with.:) The fryer will fill two bills, that for canning and Turkey frying.:D Either way I win in this one;).

Eric, I have one of those Masterbuilt Digi-elec Turkey Fryers. I bought it after I had an oil boilover and flash fire on my conventional turkey fryer that burned the back of my right hand. I was using a small Dutch oven and that was largely the reason for the accident along with french fries that were thawing and collecting condensation. It was a formula for disaster.:rolleyes:

Anyhow, the Masterbuilt is really nice and convenient, but I've used mine three times and it took some getting adjustments.

PROS:
1. Electric, so there is no open flame
2. Digital temperature setting works great
3. Easy cleanup, especially with the drain spigot.
4. Glass lid so you can view the contents

CONS:
1. Needs a 20 amp electric circuit. The listed current draw is 13 amps. If you put it on a 15 amp circuit and anything else is on that circuit, your CB will pop. I had one TV and one lamp on a circuit with the cooker and had to turn the TV off. I eventually carried the cooker into my laundry room and hooked it into the washing machine outlet. Since that time, I've installed a dedicated 20 amp circuit outside under my deck.

2. Don't expect it to work as quickly as a propane turkey cooker. If you have your oil at 365-380 degrees and drop in a bunch of french fries, the thermal recovery is much longer than with propane. You will have to be careful to add small amounts of fries or catfish to keep the oil at the proper temperature. I also used the cooker for corn on the cob at July 4th. You have to start the heating 30 to 45 min early. I stuffed the cooker with over 30 ears of corn and it did well, but it took awhile to come up to heat. Next year, I'll start the water heating much earlier.

For doing soups, stews, and canning, I think this cooker would be terrific. The digital thermometer is great and you can easily use a handheld IR thermometer to double check the temperature. I bought mine at Sam's Club and paid $79 for it. You might be able to beat Walmart's price if you shop around.
 
/ Canning question #51  
I use the big pressure canner both inside and outside, but the waterbath primarily outside.

My stove has glass under the gas burners, but it has grids that raise the pans way above the stove top, so really no issue for me. I doubt I would can on a flat glass stove top. I think that could easily ruin it.
 
/ Canning question #52  
I know this is way off topic. But hubby and I just celebrated our 41st wedding anniversary. He sent me a GPS/back up camera for my truck, that's what I wanted. We will have to find something he wants to get for his anniversary present. I just know it will be tools.;)

I pick him up tomorrow at the airport, he is flying in from Qatar, will be home for 2 1/2 weeks, then gone again for 8 weeks, no, 10 weeks, next time as his backup guy changed his plans. I will be SOOOO glad to see him.

Also glad to see him because he needs to put a new belt on my big mower.;) I don't know how I managed to break a mower deck belt that big on a 61 inch cut Scag but I did and I also tore up the chute cover. He said don't tear up the deck please they are expensive.

Anyway guys, he didn't forget our anniversary:D
 
/ Canning question #53  
Congratulations, newlyweds! We're just 30 days from our 44th.:D
 
/ Canning question #54  
Just doesn't seem that long. In our minds we are still young, but the body is a give away, though both of us are trying to keep our weight down and I'm helping my DD to do the same. It's the healthy thing for us to be. Our blood pressures are great, cholesterol is up a bit but not bad. None of us take blood pressures meds, cholesterold meds, or have any pre diabetic conditions. Sinuses and bone aches are DD and I's big issues. Hubby really doesn't have any. We attribute it to physically working much as we can and keeping active, it does pay off.

Thanks for removing that note, I don't like to see dupls like that.

And hey congrats to you and the missus!!
 
/ Canning question #55  
Hey Bird please post some of the Canning recipes man you could just make me hungrey with the conversation and the healthy choices to boot.

I will plant on as much of the property as the OWMBO (one who must be obeyed) will allow. some of my family does can and I can't wait to relocate to be closer.

Thanks in advance
 
/ Canning question #56  
Larry, I don't remember the recipes and don't know what my wife may have done with them. We had to move back to town for family reasons a little over 6 years ago and I know we got rid of the big pressure cookers. Some recipes were in manuals for the newer cooker (of course we didn't have a manual for the cooker that had belonged to my grandparents and was still in use). And of course you can find recipes for almost anything on the Internet.
 
/ Canning question #58  
I know that I am late to this party, but I wanted throw in my two cents.

I gave up the 20 pound cylinders about 5 years ago. I switched to 40's when the lady told me it was $15 to fill a 20 and $18 to fill a 40!

And they fit nicely under the side burner of my grill.

My wife does the canning in a water bath. How do you can using a pressure cooker? The last time I saw a pressure cooker in use, there was sweet potatoes on the ceiling! (It was promptly put away, never to be seen again!)
 
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Hello and welcome. We never used a pressure cooker to can, but rather a pressure canner. The one my MIL had had weights on it, no gague. I think as of now we have decided on getting a 1300 watt single burner hot plate to do the water bath on. We currentlt don't have a pressure canner, but they run around 90-100 bucks. Different veggies need different canning methods. Low acid/high acid foods.:) The water bath works for one but the other needs higher temps to kill all of the molds and spores and other nasty stuff.:eek:

As you can see, if you have a question someone on this site will have already been there and done that. A really great group of people. Glad you dropped by, and yes 40# cylinders are a bit cheaper to get filled.
 
/ Canning question #60  
I found " Ball Complete Book of Home Preserving" on Amazon. Is this the book that everyone is referring to on this thread? If it is, I will have to buy it.
 

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