Call the Mahindra Police...

[bindian]

I have to get under there anywhilst and finish checking the torque on the loader and backhoe subframes.... So far the only ones I have had to tighten a little are the ones going into the side of the block. Mahindra coats everything with a redish [ won't say pink ] undercoat before they finish coat it with Satin Black. And if you see a tiny little red around your bolts going into the block...you know they have moved a little. I am going to recover everything with SATIN BLACK when I get them all checked.... that was SATIN BLACK by the way.......

Jerry,
You know they moved a little???:shocked: I had 2 subframe bolts on the right side shear off the heads.:mur: Another bolt nearby had a bent shank with the head tilted.:thumbdown:

I replaced all of them with Grade 8 bolts. Believe me when someone tells you that subframe is heavy.:smiley_aafz:
hugs, Brandi

 

[kco]

It is a good idea to regularly torque the mounting bolts. I have a Kioti with a loader (no backhoe) with just 116 hrs on it. My loader manual says to regularly check the mounting hardware (daily/10 hrs) and re-torque mounting bolts every 25 hrs. I have checked the loader-to-block mounting bolts three times now and found two or three that moved slightly each time. They were not loose but moved 1/4 to 1/2 turn.

I was fortunate when I bought my tractor in that they had a DK90 in the shop with sheared-off mounting bolts. The owner noticed they were loose and tightened them with a 3/4" impact wrench--tightening a couple until the heads broke off! It was a good lesson for me to check the bolts regularly with a torque wrench. Another fortunate thing was it gave me an excuse to buy a torque wrench.

Kioti maintenance also calls for checking wheel bolt torques every 50 hours. When I did that at the 100 hour mark the rear wheels were fine but I found a few front wheel bolts that moved 1/4 to 3/4 turn.

I think the loader mount and front wheel bolts are more prone to loosening since they are subjected to frequent shocks and forces in different directions.

My dealer told me they are now using medium (blue) Loctite when mounting loaders. Caution....don't use strong (red) Loctite even though you prefer it--you won't be able to undo the bolts without a torch.

 

[bindian]

It is a good idea to regularly torque the mounting bolts. I have a Kioti with a loader (no backhoe) with just 116 hrs on it. My loader manual says to regularly check the mounting hardware (daily/10 hrs) and re-torque mounting bolts every 25 hrs. I have checked the loader-to-block mounting bolts three times now and found two or three that moved slightly each time. They were not loose but moved 1/4 to 1/2 turn.

I was fortunate when I bought my tractor in that they had a DK90 in the shop with sheared-off mounting bolts. The owner noticed they were loose and tightened them with a 3/4" impact wrench--tightening a couple until the heads broke off! It was a good lesson for me to check the bolts regularly with a torque wrench. Another fortunate thing was it gave me an excuse to buy a torque wrench.

Kioti maintenance also calls for checking wheel bolt torques every 50 hours. When I did that at the 100 hour mark the rear wheels were fine but I found a few front wheel bolts that moved 1/4 to 3/4 turn.

I think the loader mount and front wheel bolts are more prone to loosening since they are subjected to frequent shocks and forces in different directions.

My dealer told me they are now using medium (blue) Loctite when mounting loaders. Caution....don't use strong (red) Loctite even though you prefer it--you won't be able to undo the bolts without a torch.

Only time I have messed with my KMW ML275 loader mount bolts on my Mahindra was when I was removing and reinstalling my brush/grill guard when I modified it. Now going on 629 hours and no loader mount problems.

Backhoes stress mounting bolts with fore and aft loads and also left and right side shear loads. Loader mounting bolts don't usually have side load stres.

I can just imagine what my tractor would have looked like without a backhoe subframe when those bolts sheared.

I reinstalled all subframe bolts with RED Locktite. You stating you had bolts rotate slightly tells me you need to use RED Locktite also, as the blue is not working.

Over tightened bolts that do not break outright can stretch. I have seen this on prop bolts when I worked in General Aviation.

Also, torque wrenches that are not calibrated yearly are no better than a calibrated elbow. I bought torque wrenches years ago to use at work and at home. When I started working turboprops, they sent my wrenches out for yearly calibration. It boggled my mind how much they can change readings. When I went to work at SWA, they told me to take my torque wrenches home and only use SWA wrenches at work, because of liability issues and all of that legal stuff.
hugs, Brandi

 

[kco]

Only time I have messed with my KMW ML275 loader mount bolts on my Mahindra was when I was removing and reinstalling my brush/grill guard when I modified it. Now going on 629 hours and no loader mount problems.

Backhoes stress mounting bolts with fore and aft loads and also left and right side shear loads. Loader mounting bolts don't usually have side load stres.

I can just imagine what my tractor would have looked like without a backhoe subframe when those bolts sheared.

I reinstalled all subframe bolts with RED Locktite. You stating you had bolts rotate slightly tells me you need to use RED Locktite also, as the blue is not working.
Over tightened bolts that do not break outright can stretch. I have seen this on prop bolts when I worked in General Aviation.

Also, torque wrenches that are not calibrated yearly are no better than a calibrated elbow. I bought torque wrenches years ago to use at work and at home. When I started working turboprops, they sent my wrenches out for yearly calibration. It boggled my mind how much they can change readings. When I went to work at SWA, they told me to take my torque wrenches home and only use SWA wrenches at work, because of liability issues and all of that legal stuff.
hugs, Brandi

Although I plan to do so, I haven't used any Loctite yet. I found out about it when I discussed finding the slightly loose loader bolts with my dealer. He said he had started using Loctite the week before our discussion. I intend to reinstall the bolts with Loctite soon. I'll check back with him to see if the Blue is working OK and install Red if the Blue does not appear to be doing the job.

I will also suggest to my dealer that he make others aware of this potential issue. The recommendation to check loader bolts is in the loader manual (i.e. not the tractor manual) and I imagine it is easy for people to miss that recommendation.

I hope he would also discuss it with Kioti and they would put out some kind of bulletin. I suspect that won't happen--this ain't the aviation industry. And that's too bad--due to high transportation costs many of us are forced to be amateur tractor mechanics with varying degrees (mine is high) of incompetence.

 

[bindian]

I hope he would also discuss it with Kioti and they would put out some kind of bulletin. I suspect that won't happen--this ain't the aviation industry. And that's too bad--due to high transportation costs many of us are forced to be amateur tractor mechanics with varying degrees (mine is high) of incompetence.

Kco,
I understand. Hopefully the more you work on your tractor you will get more relaxed working on it. I find myself getting real excited when my truck breaks down. If I know I have other transportation, I can relax enough to troubleshoot my problem(s). I never seem to get that way with the Big RED Beast.

I really have a short fuse for mechanics that give the profession a bad image or force me to return my vehicle because they didn't do their job right the first time. It really amazes me how many tools I have found in my or my kids vehicles that were left by some grease monkey.
Sorry for the rant Jerry.:ashamed:

hugs, Brandi

 

[JerryK]

OK, put the 4 by 4 LED in today... went with amber, the same color as the stock indicator. Got the LED from Universal-Leds ...they are good, but come with solid copper leads and are not as bright as the red ones I got off Ebay...see above post. They were still too bright to be glaring right at you... so I put a 1K ohm resistor in series with the amber. The red one, I had to put a 2k in series... those are really bright and must be the latest that they are producing for strobe lights. You want something that you will notice, not washed out in the sunlight like the stock indicators.... Anywhilst, they are gonna get your attention now.... First picture is with the flash, second is flash off..... And when the Mahindra police show up at my door....I am gonna tell them that this was Brandi's idea......

 

[bindian]

OK, put the 4 by 4 LED in today... went with amber, the same color as the stock indicator. Got the LED from Universal-Leds ...they are good, but come with solid copper leads and are not as bright as the red ones I got off Ebay...see above post. They were still too bright to be glaring right at you... so I put a 1K ohm resistor in series with the amber. The red one, I had to put a 2k in series... those are really bright and must be the latest that they are producing for strobe lights. You want something that you will notice, not washed out in the sunlight like the stock indicators.... Anywhilst, they are gonna get your attention now.... First picture is with the flash, second is flash off..... And when the Mahindra police show up at my door....I am gonna tell them that this was Brandi's idea......

That's it.......blame the Blond!
Jerry, how about some photos out in the hot bright sunlight?:confused3: This Blond wants to see photos of your work outside.
hugs, Brandi

 

[JerryK]

That's it.......blame the Blond!
Jerry, how about some photos out in the hot bright sunlight?:confused3: This Blond wants to see photos of your work outside.
hugs, Brandi

I am just finishing up my wiring on my snowblower setup, and waiting on a slow source that I ordered my AMBER beacon from. Tomorrow, I am going to start figuring out a weight box for the rear when the hoe is off... I got my barn full of wood last week, and today I put new stove pipe in my barn, plus the LED... This retirement is a pain......

 

[MrWinkey]

How did you tie the wiring into the brake switch?

I would like a light for my PTO engagement also....

 

[JerryK]

How did you tie the wiring into the brake switch?

I would like a light for my PTO engagement also....

I just wired in parallel with my stock brake indicator in the dash. There was a wiring diagram at the back of my Operators manual [ and on the CD ] that got me close....and I did a little snooping to see how close my tractor was wired like the print. My print is not 100% correct, so it would be a good thing to look into things before hacking into any wiring. As far as the PTO indicator, you would have to check how your wiring is on that tractor...and see how you can do it. Sometimes you have to add additional relays and switches....but that is your call. Good luck.... Jerry