California

[downsizingnow48]

Can you sell a rent controlled property? If so does the new owner have to rent it or can the new owner occupy the property? If the new owner occupies the property let us say one year, can the property then be rented? If so at market rates?

 

[ultrarunner]

You can always sell... there are provisions for an owner to occupy otherwise all the provisions carry forward...

Some jurisdictions have complex formulas to be followed which are often referred to Cash for Keys.

My city enacted a Just Cause ordinance whereby a tenant can only be ask to leave in voluntarily for one of 8 reasons and a copy of the reason chosen must be sent in duplicate to the rent board and a certified copy retained prior to appearing in court.

In the old days it was rather straight forward where a property owner could choose not to renew the lease by giving proper notice or give a 60 day notice to vacate... this is no longer permitted as a reason must be given which opens the door to litigation...

In many instances you have a tenant for life provided the tenant doesn't breach one of the 8 reasons that you can prove... special rules for seniors also apply.

 

[houstonscott]

You can always sell... there are provisions for an owner to occupy otherwise all the provisions carry forward... Some jurisdictions have complex formulas to be followed which are often referred to Cash for Keys. My city enacted a Just Cause ordinance whereby a tenant can only be ask to leave in voluntarily for one of 8 reasons and a copy of the reason chosen must be sent in duplicate to the rent board and a certified copy retained prior to appearing in court. In the old days it was rather straight forward where a property owner could choose not to renew the lease by giving proper notice or give a 60 day notice to vacate... this is no longer permitted as a reason must be given which opens the door to litigation... In many instances you have a tenant for life provided the tenant doesn't breach one of the 8 reasons that you can prove... special rules for seniors also apply.

Where did your city get the idea they had right control or to determine the rent you charge on your own property. HS

 

[downsizingnow48]

Just read the San Francisco rules for rent control tenancy evictions. It looks like the landlord must pay relocation expenses of $4500-13500 to each tenant who is evicted for just cause. That includes failure to pay the rent.

 

[ultrarunner]

Where did your city get the idea they had right control or to determine the rent you charge on your own property. HS

City Hall is highly influenced by Mob Rule and the louder the mob the more they rule.

I've done the late night early morning sessions at council... 6 or 7 hours waiting to speak and then have council hold it over to next week...

 

[Steppenwolfe]

You can always sell... there are provisions for an owner to occupy otherwise all the provisions carry forward...

Some jurisdictions have complex formulas to be followed which are often referred to Cash for Keys.

My city enacted a Just Cause ordinance whereby a tenant can only be ask to leave in voluntarily for one of 8 reasons and a copy of the reason chosen must be sent in duplicate to the rent board and a certified copy retained prior to appearing in court.

In the old days it was rather straight forward where a property owner could choose not to renew the lease by giving proper notice or give a 60 day notice to vacate... this is no longer permitted as a reason must be given which opens the door to litigation...

In many instances you have a tenant for life provided the tenant doesn't breach one of the 8 reasons that you can prove... special rules for seniors also apply.

So, you don't actually " own " your property in the sense it's mine, I'll do what I want. You merely manage it for the city, and get to do the upkeep, and pay the taxes on it... One of our many lost liberties.

 

[ultrarunner]

So, you don't actually " own " your property in the sense it's mine, I'll do what I want. You merely manage it for the city, and get to do the upkeep, and pay the taxes on it... One of our many lost liberties.

Pretty much the way it is... but not just here but it tends to be more extreme when it can take years to get a building permit for a single family home on a residential lot zoned single family... the design review means you build only if it meets all the requirements which includes how long a single outside wall can be... placement of windows, gutters and even house color...

 

[EddieWalker]

What was the name of that mall in Oakland that closed in the early 90's? I went there a few times when driving for Airborne Express and was amazed that each store had it's own private security. Over half of the mall was empty because of theft. It wasn't too much longer until they just close the place down because nobody could make money there.

 

[ultrarunner]

Eastmont... it was the site of the old Chevrolet Plant that closed in the 60's and was redeveloped into a shopping mall with national retailers...

My first home was just 3 blocks away and the hardware store nearby took up an entire city block... I paid 15k for it back in the 1980's

Eastmont Mall - 12 Reviews - Shopping Centers - East Oakland - Oakland, CA - Photos - Phone Number - Yelp

Foothill Hardware - CLOSED - 15 Reviews - Hardware Stores - East Oakland - Oakland, CA, United States - Photos - Phone Number - Yelp

The open smaller shopping center call Foothill Square has had a resurgence... about 45 million was spent and so far it seems to be holding it's own... it too was manufacturing and the birthplace of Peterbilt Trucks...

Foothill Square Shopping Center - History

The rest of retail is pretty dismal... even Walmart closed up shop...

 

[crash325]

One law for us, another for you

EDITORIAL: One law for us, another for you - Washington Times

 

[flusher]

Of all the laws he signed, the one he vetoed is the only one I felt would have done some good. Making it a felony to steal a gun instead of a misdemeanor makes a lot of sense. Why would he veto that one?

"Among the vetoes was the only bill with bipartisan support, AB1176, which would have authorized a ballot measure asking voters to make it a felony to steal a gun or buy a stolen gun, regardless of its value."

Gov. Jerry Brown signs 6 gun-control bills, vetoes 5 - SFGate

Probably to keep the state and county prisons from overflowing. The Gov was ordered a few years ago by the federal court to reduce the CA prison population by 50,000 inmates or so (overcrowding).

 

[ultrarunner]

^^^This is the basis for the shift or at least the excuse used.

 

[houstonscott]

One law for us, another for you EDITORIAL: One law for us, another for you - Washington Times

Seeing that today! HS

 

[ultrarunner]

Two tier in that those that make the law often are exempt from the laws they make.