Oil & Fuel BX Oil filter problem

[radioman]

A few years ago I thought I'd do the save money on filters thing. I went to some auto parts stores to find filters for Kubotas. Glad I had plenty of time. When they (several employees) finally found a number that they thought might work it was about the same price as going to Barlows and telling Gary I needed a filter and he walks over and lays it on the counter. I don't do the filter shopping any more. When I was younger in the 50s-60's the biggest joke was anything made in Japan was cheap junk. Today, if it's from China it's junk and from Japan it's the best. Wonder how or the timing of those transitions happen, from junk to great? Will from China one day become great and will we really be aware of when it happens, if it does? Don't get me wrong, I use the Chinese junk statement alot, just like I used to use the Japanese junk statement back when it was. Japanese cars killed VW Beetles. When Toyota and Datsun (Nissan) made a car that had heaters, good gas mileage and would run circles around a VW the end was near. Does China make any good products? Bet you don't know what all you have that was made or has parts made in China. Times change, good or bad.

You couldn't have said it any better then I could. Same with kia. when they first came out- they were cheap and junk. Now they have the strongest caravan on the market. The Sedona has a 3500 towing capacity for the base model . The dodge caravan doesnt even come close to it.

 

[Deano]

I think we would all be shocked at how much of our "stuff" was made in China or have parts made in China.
Look at Harley Davidson forks made in Japan...American made motorcycle??

Deano

 

[bota jim]

there are more parts on an harley made in other countries than in the us anymore.

 

[bobcatofduluth]

"The Wix filter number is 51365 and looks to be of a lot better quality."

Never judge a book by its cover. The quality is in the filter media and manufacturing process. WIX is a will-fit cheap alternative and will never compare in quality to OEM, nor will Kubota cover any engine or hydro that had an aftermarket filter on it. Not to mention, the price difference is insignificant. Stick with OEM. Consider it affordable insurance and peace of mind.

If you got a bad filter from your dealer (which is very uncommon) you should bring it back to them and I'm sure they'd be happy to provide you with a free replacement.

 

[NIdaho]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I know that for cars and trucks (and I think it applies to tractors as well) there is legislation (Moss-Magnesum (?) Act) that basically says that a company can not cover a warranty claim because you didn't use an OEM filter unless they give them to you FREE. Like I said I know it applies to cars, pickups, motorcycles, .... and I would assume it applies to tractors as well.

Even though I have said the above, I typically use Kubota OEM filters as my local dealer sells them for less than what I can buy the NAPA/WIX equivalent for at the local NAPA store.

 

[Deano]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I know that for cars and trucks (and I think it applies to tractors as well) there is legislation (Moss-Magnesum (?) Act) that basically says that a company can not cover a warranty claim because you didn't use an OEM filter unless they give them to you FREE. Like I said I know it applies to cars, pickups, motorcycles, .... and I would assume it applies to tractors as well.

Even though I have said the above, I typically use Kubota OEM filters as my local dealer sells them for less than what I can buy the NAPA/WIX equivalent for at the local NAPA store.

I think that they are saying that if the filter were to collapse or fail and the engine failed, that Kubota would not warranty the repair. If the engine failed and the WIX (or other brand) did not fail, then they would honor the warranty.

But I do believe you are correct on not requiring the use of OEM parts as long as the aftermarket parts meet OEM specs.

Deano

 

[NuBota]

On the off topic Chinese = junk issue....

When I see/hear this reference I always think of an article I read a year ago in US New and World Reports. It talked about how China was tired of being the "junk maker" of the world and the government was trying to raise the bar - which caused some factories over there to go under and had American retailers rebelling against the resultant increase in prices.

I have never seen any other mention of this topic and was starting to think I must have remembered it wrong, but I found the article online....

After Long Boom, China Faces an Industrial Downsizing - US News and World Report

Now, obviously this article doesn't make it true - but I always felt USN&WR did a pretty good job reporting most things

Either way, it is interesting concept - if Japan could make the transition, why not China

And somehow, true or not, I still shudder that soon the US will produce absolutely nothing....except consumers

 

[BigD23]

I choose not to purchase anything made in china and have for years...Some will say it's impossible not to buy things made in china, and my reply is if china is the only alternative, then I don't need it.

Don

 

[nh DRAGON]

I choose not to purchase anything made in china and have for years...Some will say it's impossible not to buy things made in china, and my reply is if china is the only alternative, then I don't need it.

Don

I thought the same thing but learned it is not easy. You really have to go out of your way not to buy something from China.

 

[Deano]

I choose not to purchase anything made in china and have for years...Some will say it's impossible not to buy things made in china, and my reply is if china is the only alternative, then I don't need it.

Don

I thought the same thing but learned it is not easy. You really have to go out of your way not to buy something from China.

And then, you don't even know if it has Chinese parts on it.

BigD23, I hope you don't drive a car. I am sure somewhere on it is a Chinese part....and clothes....

Deano

 

[BigD23]

And then, you don't even know if it has Chinese parts on it.

BigD23, I hope you don't drive a car. I am sure somewhere on it is a Chinese part....and clothes....

Deano

Ya know Deano, when I typed my earlier remark I knew someone would do a follow up such as yours. It's not rocket science that chinese parts are added to items at times. My statement was that I choose Not to buy things made in china .......Read the label MADE IN CHINA.

Don

 

[Deano]

Ya know Deano, when I typed my earlier remark I knew someone would do a follow up such as yours. It's not rocket science that chinese parts are added to items at times. My statement was that I choose Not to buy things made in china .......Read the label MADE IN CHINA.

Don

Wasn't being a wisenheimer...just stating what it has come to. Money drives everything and everybody these days....what a shame!!

Deano

 

[David M]

I am another who will not buy Chinese "goods?" (It should be "Chinese horribles.") Not to mention the Communist China still murders Americans, holds at least two American doctors who went there paying their own way to help the people; they are still in prison making shoes. They were accused of spying. Communist China *routinely* threatens the US with nuclear weapons. And on and on and on...

 

[BigD23]

I am another who will not buy Chinese "goods?" (It should be "Chinese horribles.") Not to mention the Communist China still murders Americans, holds at least two American doctors who went there paying their own way to help the people; they are still in prison making shoes. They were accused of spying. Communist China *routinely* threatens the US with nuclear weapons. And on and on and on...

Thank you David M.

Don

 

[2ndgenguy]

I am new here but can see that this post has spiraled into a US vs China debate. I hate to get more off the subject but I feel rather strongly about this. I personally make all the purchases I can reasonably make of US goods, to the exclusion of Japan (remember ww2 not just threats there), Korea, China etc... Sometimes there is no option. All of the SCUT are made in foriegn countries, even those with US company names on them. By that logic I purchased the brand with the best reputation when compared with price, and the availability and quality of local service. I will always purchase US made first, but sometimes it is not available or even remotely competitive in price or quality.

 

[BXpanded]

I am new here but can see that this post has spiraled into a US vs China debate. I hate to get more off the subject but I feel rather strongly about this. I personally make all the purchases I can reasonably make of US goods, to the exclusion of Japan (remember ww2 not just threats there), Korea, China etc... Sometimes there is no option. All of the SCUT are made in foriegn countries, even those with US company names on them. By that logic I purchased the brand with the best reputation when compared with price, and the availability and quality of local service. I will always purchase US made first, but sometimes it is not available or even remotely competitive in price or quality.

Your BX was built in Gainesville, GA. Lots of imported parts from India, China, Japan,...but more built in US than anywhere else.

 

[BigD23]

Sorry if I made this into a slight debate and/or ruffled any feathers...Was not my intention...I'm only sharing how strong my feelings are about my personal purchases.

Don

 

[2ndgenguy]

Your BX was built in Gainesville, GA. Lots of imported parts from India, China, Japan,...but more built in US than anywhere else.

Well that makes me feel a little better. Thanks. But really has anyone else had trouble with the Kubota filters?

 

[sw03]

Well that makes me feel a little better. Thanks. But really has anyone else had trouble with the Kubota filters?

For me, kubota filter prices are a joke. Why pay $8 for a filter when I can buy another major brand (same internals) for 50% less? Not orange too.

The only filter that is OEM is the hyd filter until I find another.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

For me, kubota filter prices are a joke. Why pay $8 for a filter when I can buy another major brand (same internals) for 50% less? Not orange too.

The only filter that is OEM is the hyd filter until I find another.

Wow! They (whoever they is) want $8 for an oil filter for your Kubota? I don't blame you for not buying from them. Glad my dealer doesn't charge any where near that much or try to charge that much. Maybe you need to check with other dealers or online or just buy from where ever your buying from. The last Kubota filter I bought was about the same price as the off brand at a auto parts store. I believe under $4 but my memory may be off.