BX 24 Backhoe performance.

[montelatici]

The BX24's backhoe is a nice tool, however, in many situations the light weight of the tractor limits its effectiveness. The back end lifts up when doing heavy lifting. Would holding down the BX24's FEL when doing BH work with a bigger tractor's FEL be dangerous or damaging? I suspect that there is a relief valve that would limit the ability of the BH to break something. Am I wrong?

 

[funwithahoe]

The BX24's backhoe is a nice tool, however, in many situations the light weight of the tractor limits its effectiveness. The back end lifts up when doing heavy lifting. Would holding down the BX24's FEL when doing BH work with a bigger tractor's FEL be dangerous or damaging? I suspect that there is a relief valve that would limit the ability of the BH to break something. Am I wrong?

I see where you are coming from but the engineers really do "match" all the components meaning that the tractor is the right size and weight for the BH. Usually trying to make one section better will make another section fail. Nonetheless, it's yours and if you want to - Go to town!

 

[Shmudda]

Buy the right tool for the job if you need a bigger machine! Those little backhoes on the BX24 are good for some small things, but like you said the tractor is light weight. Mine gets dragged all over from the hoe too. I have made some larger outrigger pads which have seemed to help some but the hoe will pull the machine into the hole if you are really tugging on a stump or root.

Craig

 

[IslandTractor]

Bigger tractors with bigger backhoes get dragged around just as much as the BX TLBs. It is a matter of judgment to decide how much extra ballast or anchoring to do. I found it a great help to add "big feet" to my backhoe stabilizers to prevent them from sliding around.

 

[montelatici]

Buy the right tool for the job if you need a bigger machine! Those little backhoes on the BX24 are good for some small things, but like you said the tractor is light weight. Mine gets dragged all over from the hoe too. I have made some larger outrigger pads which have seemed to help some but the hoe will pull the machine into the hole if you are really tugging on a stump or root.

Craig

Well, I do have an L3700, a bit bigger. But no BH for it.

 

[BigD23]

While using the BH on my BX23, I've learned that the tractor is going to move somewhat when trying to do some serious "rooting"...Like with most implements, common sense is the real factor.

Don

 

[Verticaltrx]

Bigger tractors with bigger backhoes get dragged around just as much as the BX TLBs. It is a matter of judgment to decide how much extra ballast or anchoring to do. I found it a great help to add "big feet" to my backhoe stabilizers to prevent them from sliding around.

Yup, I've done quite a bit of stump removal with a B26 and you will drag it right in the hole if you aren't careful. I generally turn the loader bucket down so the cutting edge digs in at an angle that it drives it deeper in the ground the further you pull it back (hard to explain). Helps some, but you also have to use the correct digging/ripping technique to get the most done without dragging the tractor too much. Now if a BX gets dragged around during normal digging then I would agree it's too light and need some extra ballast/anchoring.

 

[ChuckinNH]

I found that a bucket of gravel dampened the movements of my BX22, and made me feel less like I was beating on it. Experience helps too, but it sure is hard not to keep pulling on something when you can.

 

[IslandTractor]

I generally turn the loader bucket down so the cutting edge digs in at an angle that it drives it deeper in the ground the further you pull it back (hard to .

Just be careful as in that position the bucket dump cylinder is fully extended which leaves it vulnerable. I don't recall reports of damage using it as an anchor like this but it a common problem when back dragging in that position.

 

[coreshot]

The BX24's backhoe is a nice tool, however, in many situations the light weight of the tractor limits its effectiveness. The back end lifts up when doing heavy lifting. Would holding down the BX24's FEL when doing BH work with a bigger tractor's FEL be dangerous or damaging? I suspect that there is a relief valve that would limit the ability of the BH to break something. Am I wrong?

Rather than use another tractor to hold down the front end of the BX, try filling the BX's FEL with large rocks. There's no sense in damaging two tractors to get one job done.

The BX will do any job out there that you wnt to tackle, it just comes down to hw much time you have to complete the task. I have dug some very hard ground with basketball-size rock with mine, as well as 300+ ft of water line trench. It takes time, but it's better than paying to rent a bigger machine or hiring it done. IMO.

 

[Just2quickz28]

Generally I put load of dirt / rocks ect in the front bucket to help from dragging around. 400 hours of heavy backhoe work and not damage yet. I also tend to put my stabilizers in the ground instead of on top of the soil. Flip the pad so it digs in a little bit.

 

[keyman1808]

Ditto here. load of rock in the FEL and use some sommon sense. I have dug out some really big stumps with mine but I dont attack it like a full size machine. I dig around cut roots with an ax or saw and keep going until its loose. Good luck

 

[radioman]

I agree here. The BX BH is fine for its size, If it the BH is throwing you around alot , then you are not using the power of th BX BH correctly. Now this is not to say you dont know what you are doing, it just means you need to realize it time for a different angle approach to let the hydraulics do the work for you for saftey sakes. The BH SHOULD be able to lift the BX back end to move it around or cross a trench. Mine barely does it, since I don't go over the specs for relief valve. (I know some who have ) lifting the tractor is not really damaging the tractor IMHO.

The BX is a lightwieght duty machine, and it works fine in many cases. It's just those who have no patience and want the job done yesterday were trying to make the BX a heavy duty machine. BX is geared towards the homeowner and lighty duty contracters that needs a small footprint machine.

 

[montelatici]

Yup, filling the FEL bucket with rocks or something sounds like a good approach.

 

[cdaigle430]

I agree here. The BX BH is fine for its size, If it the BH is throwing you around alot , then you are not using the power of th BX BH correctly. Now this is not to say you dont know what you are doing, it just means you need to realize it time for a different angle approach to let the hydraulics do the work for you for saftey sakes. The BH SHOULD be able to lift the BX back end to move it around or cross a trench. Mine barely does it, since I don't go over the specs for relief valve. (I know some who have ) lifting the tractor is not really damaging the tractor IMHO.

The BX is a lightwieght duty machine, and it works fine in many cases. It's just those who have no patience and want the job done yesterday were trying to make the BX a heavy duty machine. BX is geared towards the homeowner and lighty duty contracters that needs a small footprint machine.

Every peice of equipment has it's limitiations and what makes them effective is the ability of hte operator using it not just the machine. I have seen people to amazing things with these SCUTs because they took the time to learn the tractor inside and out. A SCUT will not move a 1 ton boulder far but a smart operator knows that and a real experienced operator might dig a hole deep enough to bury it and nudge the boulder into the hole. You won't hear them complain about it's limitations

 

[Jimbrown]

I do not have a BX24 but the instruction manual for my BX22 clearly says to fully dump the FEL buck and to engage the ground with the cutting edge and then to slightly rasie the front of the machine. in most cases i lift the front ires off of the ground with the bucket and the rears with the stabilizers and find that this greatly reduces the amount that the hoe can drag the machine around.

 

[KeithInSpace]

I don't think there's much you can do to mess up the backhoe or tractor. I know I've beat the stink out of mine on tree roots, clay, and concrete and it comes back for more.

That said, there certainly are limitations to a BX mounted backhoe. I'll stop short of calling it a toy...I reserve that opinion for the 'trailer mount' backhoes I've seen advertised. It is a SPECTACULAR alternative to a shovel and is intended for residential homeowner use. If you need to dig a hole for a septic solids tank, you need a bigger machine. If you need to dig holes for decks, azaleas, patios, etc., or dig out the odd stump, the BX mounted backhoe is perfect.

 

[Deano]

I don't think there's much you can do to mess up the backhoe or tractor. I know I've beat the stink out of mine on tree roots, clay, and concrete and it comes back for more.

I think we operate ours the same way!!!:thumbsup:

 

[tommu56]

If you are doing a trench work the face of it by pulling up with the teeth it takes a little practice and you have to get to depth but it will dislodge the material even if spoils fall down just go in after a couple of rips and scoop it out.

tom

 

[timswi]

If you are doing a trench work the face of it by pulling up with the teeth it takes a little practice and you have to get to depth but it will dislodge the material even if spoils fall down just go in after a couple of rips and scoop it out.

tom

Yep, you have to work with a little grace using a BX. They do a great job, but patience is a virtue. If you get too agressive with the BH, it will drag you all over the yard

I actually enjoy the slower pace, it's the only time I'm alone with my thoughts...That's actually kinda scary.:confused3: