Backhoe Broke my B26 today

[Gary Fowler]

I was pushing up a bunch of tree limbs into a piles to burn and just after I finished the third pile and parked the FEL or backhoe wouldn't work. Found the hydraulic filter housing dented all up and the bracket that the filter screws on to was pouring oil out. It is either broken or a gasket blown. I will have to remove everything tomorrow and see what I need but I expect the bracket is cracked and likely have to be ordered. Sure hope it is not as tight to get to as brother in laws was last summer. He broke the bracket on his NH working on one of the same piles of limbs.

 

[peterc38]

Wow, that stinks. Hope you get it fixed quick. Next time you have to work on that pile of limbs I'd suggest dynamite

 

[3930dave]

One of those days....... :thumbdown:

Happens enough, using ag tractors in brush. Hopefully it will be a cheaper fix for you than changing out a rad.

Can't remember if it was a Kub, but I seem to recall somebody making up a decent looking skid bracket/plate for their hydraulic filter, after a similar adventure.

Have a better one tomorrow !

Rgds, D.

 

[big bubba]

isn't it shielded around most of it, or just a stray branch hit it? sometimes nice to have a bigger rig in those situations w/more clearance.... hey, hope easy fix

 

[oldballs]

After all the seat time that you have accrued, I'll bet that was a surprise to you. Hope you have a warm place to work on it.

 

[Gary Fowler]

After all the seat time that you have accrued, I'll bet that was a surprise to you. Hope you have a warm place to work on it.

Yep, got about 300 hours of seat time and this is the first time anything actually broke. The way I use that thing for a bulldozer pushing thru fence lines and honeysuckle / saw briars etc it is a miracle that I haven't ripped something off before now. Last week a small pine sapling stuck up thru that same area and wedged my throttle cable to about 1800 RPM even after I got the stick out. Had to hook a strap on it and then use the FEL to pull it out, then I had to remove the rear tire to adjust the cable.
There is some skid plates under it but that filter is pretty much exposed even though it is nestled up off the ground a bit. It is pretty safe running forward over saplings but the problem happens when you leave one standing and have to back up and then they like to spear up under the tractor. I think it was 4 shorts who build a skid plate for one of his tractors to cover the entire bottom. It might not be that hard to fix one up, but just using it as a tractor and not a dozer would be a good start.

 

[srs]

Gary, sorry to hear that. Do you have any photos of the damage? Stanley

 

[JRL305]

I had a branch or something go up into the engine compartment one day and it made a loud noise and a puff of smoke. I backed off and it cleared up. When I finished my day, I opened the hood and looked around and the ends of the fan are ground down a little. No other visible damage though and it's still running fine.

 

[Gary Fowler]

It broke the filter housing (cast aluminum) The whole thing is hold in place by one bolt and an o-ring seal where it goes into the oil reservoir and then another o-ring seal (again one bolt) on top where the pump suction line attaches. I will get a photo of the piece later and post it.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I got the parts ordered,(not in stock of course) $50 filter housing, $30 for the filter, $4 for 2 O-rings
got some photos of the cast aluminum housing and ridged pipe connection. Something is wrong somewhere cant get the manage attachments to open up. I'll try later to put on some pic.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Well finally got the darn computer to work. The third photo is basically how it set into the tractor hydraulic reservoir with o ring seal held in place by one bolt, then the suction line sets on top as shown in 4th photo with o ring seal and the same one bolt. I have to install the suction pipe onto the filter housing then work that crooked son of a gun up thru all the other lines to push it into a rubber hose connection with a hose clamp. I guess you don't need much to hold a suction line

 

[k0ua]

I got the parts ordered,(not in stock of course) $50 filter housing, $30 for the filter, $4 for 2 O-rings
got some photos of the cast aluminum housing and ridged pipe connection. Something is wrong somewhere cant get the manage attachments to open up. I'll try later to put on some pic.

Could of been worse. $84 and some repair time... ah not bad for "dozer rental" :laughing: Sounds like you have been getting some good seat time on the 'bota lately. I have about 210 hrs on the Kioti.

James K0UA

 

[srs]

Gary, glad the price wasn't too bad. Any chance you can have the old part welded just in case it should get damaged again, hopefully not of course. I'm thinking too that maybe you need to fabricate some type of shield to protect the new part or other parts that might be vulnerable to being damaged. Thanks for the pics. Stanley

 

[Gary Fowler]

I might could be welded but likely would cost more than a new one. Aluminum welding isn't cheap. I have the foot on my outboard motor welded and it was a simple straight weld and it was $100. This would require some careful welding and then some machining to get all the excess metal of or out of the suction side. At least getting it off was a piece of cake once I got a socket extension of the exact needed length, 3" was too long and 2" was too short, luckily I got my swivel joint to fit on to take out that first bolt. The tractor is over a quarter mile from my house so of course I didn't take a Phillips screwdriver to loosen that on hose clamp or nut driver to take off the other one.

 

[oldballs]

It was a beautiful day here to work outside or take a 1/4 mile walk.... maybe yours was too.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I got all my parts yesterday and started trying to reinstall everything. Pretty tricky snaking that steel pipe back up thru everything and no matter how I put it in place I couldn't qet it in place without being in a bind somewhere. I may have been bent a bit from the collision that broke the filter so I will just have to tweek it a bit if I ever get it all back together. I worked at it for over an hour trying the get the tube inserted into the hydraulic reservoir and get the holding bolt to start. Not a lot of room to work the fingers or any tool in there but finally got it to slip in most of the way and got the bolt started then couldn't find my ratchet anywhere and couldn't get the tube next to the pump to slip in without some heavy prying and then it started to rain so I had to abandon the fix for now. It is still raining today and supposed to rain all day. Tomorrow is supposed to be sunny but cool so maybe I can work on it then before I leave for Christmas holidays.

I guess I should have known I would have problems when I drove up to the tractor and a cow had pooped a huge pile right where I had to lay down. Luckily I had two big pieces of cardboard from a box that they hadn't pooped on. Brother in laws Darned cows poop more than any animal I have ever seen. The whole pasture is one big poop pad. They sure were enjoying scarfing up all the acorns from under the big oaks though.

 

[Stonehaller]

I guess I should have known I would have problems when I drove up to the tractor and a cow had pooped a huge pile right where I had to lay down.

Yuk! Leave it to the cows to foretell your day.

Kubota must think you will never use a tractor in brush. You would think they would put guards around filters hanging on the bottom of tractors. My L39 has two hydraulic filters exposed on the bottom. I built my own guard after denting one of the filters in brush. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/155494-l39-filter-guard-right-side.html

 

[3930dave]

Yuk! Leave it to the cows to foretell your day.

Kubota must think you will never use a tractor in brush. You would think they would put guards around filters hanging on the bottom of tractors. My L39 has two hydraulic filters exposed on the bottom. I built my own guard after denting one of the filters in brush. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/155494-l39-filter-guard-right-side.html

I remembered: orange, and a really clean, high functioning build. If I wasn't thinking of something 4shorts did, it must have been yours. :thumbsup:

For the 'bota guys, I'll ask - "Still got your Day Job ?"

Rgds, D.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Well yesterday was spent watching 3+" of rain fall and the large pond overflow and wash out some of the dam which I got out in the rain and put some crushed shale in place using my LS P 7010 with cab to slow down the erosion and opened up the overflow to let out more water and faster.
This morning I went back to the B26 and finished up the install of the new filter housing and attached the ridged pipe to the hydraulic pump, put back the oil (got it a little over full and will have to let some out) everything worked as it should and was able to put my baby back in the shed. Removal of a quart or so of oil will have to wait for a warmer day. That reservoir is weird, it wasn't even touching the stick and put in a gallon and oil started running out the dipstick hole. It went down a bit when I cycled the system and the new filter filled up. Sure glad that is over.

 

[3930dave]

Congratulations on getting that fix done Gary.

PITA when stuff like that happens, good to have a tractor back in shape, without big $'s for parts.

Rgds, D.