Bought new pickup should I get it undercoated ?

[PILOON]

That makes sense. But it also looks like it would catch a lot of mud and debris.

I'd be interested in knowing what the dealer recommends / suggests for a new truck.

Also wonder if they install the after-market plastic wheel-well liners over the carpet / fabric or if it has to be removed. Looks like installing plastic to protect it and still have the sound-deadening quality would be the best of both worlds.

Thanks for the info.

What?
An 80K PU and U question rust proofing?
Shucks I'd be tempted to rust proof 3/4 x /yr with best policy published!

 

[Cycledude]

What?
An 80K PU and U question rust proofing?
Shucks I'd be tempted to rust proof 3/4 x /yr with best policy published!

$80,000 ? My new f150 XLT four wheel drive 2.7 liter eco boost with 10 speed automatic transmission with tonneau cover, bed liner and mud flaps installed , also a trailer hitch and running boards cost under $52,000 and that includes tax and license. Tomorrow I’m going to ask about maybe removing the brandnew running boards and selling them.

 

[sadie72]

If you have a vehicle with a unibody, live in the north where deicing salts are used, want to keep your vehicle for 6+ year, please apply an undercoating as early as possible from the purchase date to protect yourself! In Vermont anyway, a car will likely fail the required annual State Inspection, due to rust after 7 years, if you do not undercoat each year. Another revenue source for the State!

 

[RichNJKubota]

Fluid Film or equivalent is needed to minimize rust.
However I have always been totally amazed (with all due respect for those on this forum) at how people will spend $50k-$80k on a truck and then it rusts away. To me this is a scam by the manufactures and nobody seems to question it.

 

[LD1]

Fluid Film or equivalent is needed to minimize rust.
However I have always been totally amazed (with all due respect for those on this forum) at how people will spend $50k-$80k on a truck and then it rusts away. To me this is a scam by the manufactures and nobody seems to question it.

I have often wondered the same thing about critical components of a vehicle. Not necessarily just the body.

When buying a $80k truck.....what would the upcharge be to use stainless steel brake and fuel lines? Or exhaust? A drop in the bucket all things considered?

 

[crashz]

Stainless lines, and never-seize on non-critical fasteners. I agree.

From a business perspective though, the auto industry gets hammered with safety, economy, and emissions regulations. They need to market a vehicle that appeals to the masses, meets regulation and is at least reasonable in price. Not to mention the many frivolous lawsuits due to incompetent drivers. It's always the car manufactures' fault. I can see why rust prevention is a lower priority.

Over the last 40 years the de-icing chemicals have gotten more effective and more corrosive. In conjunction with wasteful and ridiculous government spending protocol (use it up this year or we won't get more next), and you have a recipe for vehicle and environmental disaster.

BTW - just got the 2022 Canyon coated at NH Oil Undercoating. I have mixed feelings. Let's say that they were extremely through with application and lack-luster on clean-up. I'll be cleaning windows and washing it it multiple times. Black oil undercoating on a white truck was my mistake.

 

[Oaktree]

If you have a vehicle with a unibody, live in the north where deicing salts are used, want to keep your vehicle for 6+ year, please apply an undercoating as early as possible from the purchase date to protect yourself! In Vermont anyway, a car will likely fail the required annual State Inspection, due to rust after 7 years, if you do not undercoat each year. Another revenue source for the State!

7 years might be a bit of an exaggeration, but yeah, rust remains a problem on vehicles.

Didn't Vt. experiment with reduced salt usage a few years ago? ISTR seeing signs to that effect when crossing into the state. Haven't seen them for a while...must not have worked out very well.
Our snow here in the northeast usually has a high water content, and if roads are untreated turns to ice/hardpack when you drive on it. Not sure how things are in western states where the snow is drier.

Fluid Film or equivalent is needed to minimize rust.
However I have always been totally amazed (with all due respect for those on this forum) at how people will spend $50k-$80k on a truck and then it rusts away. To me this is a scam by the manufactures and nobody seems to question it.

Actually, rust resistance is a lot better on vehicles than it was 30+ years ago. Japanese vehicles were the worst, American & European ones were better, but even so 10 years was a long time for a vehicle.
Trouble is, just when the manufacturers started to provide better rustproofing, the states switched from using rock salt to treat roads to brine, which gets in every little crevice and stays there. The plastic cladding most automakers use on rocker panels and around wheel wells not only traps it, but you also don't notice it until it's bad.

Fortunately, the town I live in uses very little road salt, but this is a winter tourist area (snowmobiling, skiing) and the state more than makes up the difference on state/federal roads.

 

[nyone]

tried scraping and painting with rust converter twice at huge expense. It hardly slowed the rust down

That's because that crap dosnt work. You cant get in the seams and the prep is the same for new paint.

 

[nyone]

as a retired mechanic..... absolutely no. what a mess to work on.

You would rather fix stuck bolts, rusted bolts or scrap the vehicle vs getting a bit dirty?

 

[Randy52]

In Pa. salt and deicers are heavily used. I had my new GMC done by a shop that uses causmline like the military uses.

 

[Tomtint]

Just this past summer I had the undercarriage blasted and painted on my 2017 F450 dump truck.The mag chloride they use on the roads up here is brutal on vehicles. I had that sprayed, my 2020 F450 Limited sprayed and we just got a 392 Jeep Rubicon that we also sprayed with what i think is called New Hampshire Oil. Its a black liquid that appears like it will last a year or two. It was 300 per vehicle so its not particularly expensive...considering it cost me 5K to blast and paint the dump undercarriage..

 

[Cycledude]

Brought the new F150 home Wednesday, decided not to have it undercoated. Other than the crazy high price I’m pretty happy with it, never owned such a high tech vehicle before so it’s going to take awhile to get used to using all those controls.
A couple pictures

 

[Torvy]

Don't be fooled...

https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/03/should-you-rust-proof-your-new-car-.html

 

[coobie]

Don't be fooled...

https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/03/should-you-rust-proof-your-new-car-.html

Don't be fooled unless you live in a rust belt..I will take my chances rust proofing all of my vehicles as I have done for the last 40 years.I see how my friend and families cars hold up without it rust proofing and the results are not good.

 

[Cycledude]

Don't be fooled...

https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/03/should-you-rust-proof-your-new-car-.html

The article seems to go back and forth recommending and not recommending rust proofing but here is the final paragraph
So should you buy a rustproofing package when buying a new car? “We don’t recommend rust proofing,” says Quincy. “It’s very likely a waste of money and almost all of the cost goes right into the pockets of the dealer.” Even third party rust-proofing is considered a bust, “after-market rust proofing is a waste of money regardless of who’s applying it,” says Quincy. “Factory rust proofing is all you need.”

 

[dodge man]

Nice looking truck!

 

[DK35vince]

Don't be fooled unless you live in a rust belt..I will take my chances rust proofing all of my vehicles as I have done for the last 40 years.I see how my friend and families cars hold up without it rust proofing and the results are not good.

Exactly.
I've seen what the salt and brine do to vehicles here. (Older and newer)
All our vehicles get oiled. And it makes a HUGE difference.

 

[brokeasajoke]

Wool wax, fluid film + dusty road have worked well but I don't drive anything that fancy.

 

[Torvy]

Don't be fooled unless you live in a rust belt..I will take my chances rust proofing all of my vehicles as I have done for the last 40 years.I see how my friend and families cars hold up without it rust proofing and the results are not good.

40 years ago it made sense. Today, you are throwing your money away. Do what you want with your money. The OP was buying a NEW truck. New trucks don't need it.

Anecdotal 'evidence' is like eyewitness accounts. People see what they want to see. The data just doesn't support rust proofing modern trucks.

 

[coobie]

40 years ago it made sense. Today, you are throwing your money away. Do what you want with your money. The OP was buying a NEW truck. New trucks don't need it.

Anecdotal 'evidence' is like eyewitness accounts. People see what they want to see. The data just doesn't support rust proofing modern trucks.

Just purchased a 2022 Ram and had Krown rustproofing installed.You are correct people see what they want to see & living here in Michigan I see MANY 6-8 year old vehicles that are rusted out that have not been rustproofed.IMHO for $139 per year investment its money well spent..