Binders and chain

[gilraine]

I just got new chains and binders for my 18 foot 10k equipment hauler. I mistakenly ordered 5/16 chains but 3/8 binders. The hook on the binder grabs the chain well but has anyone had any issues with this?

 

[fried1765]

I just got new chains and binders for my 18 foot 10k equipment hauler. I mistakenly ordered 5/16 chains but 3/8 binders. The hook on the binder grabs the chain well but has anyone had any issues with th

They should be fine!

 

[Topzide]

Have been using that exact setup for several years now with no issues at all! Gives some flexibility if you have to use 3/8 chains.

 

[nikerret]

Most binders are marketed as dual size. Look closely on the binder, there’s a chance it’s dual marked. Even if not, using a one size smaller chain is acceptable.

 

[azbinder]

On my 16" 7K car hauler and 28' GN flatbed, I used 5/16 chain and ratchet binders. When hauling my B7800 Kubota on the 16', I used 2 chains and 4 binders. Front, hooked each hook in the grille guard and then hooked the binder to a stake pocket and the chain, pulling out at an angle towards the front on each side. Did the same on the rear, pulling at an angle backwards. This is still 4 point chaining, but using only 2 chains.

 

[fried1765]

On my 16" 7K car hauler and 28' GN flatbed, I used 5/16 chain and ratchet binders. When hauling my B7800 Kubota on the 16', I used 2 chains and 4 binders. Front, hooked each hook in the grille guard and then hooked the binder to a stake pocket and the chain, pulling out at an angle towards the front on each side. Did the same on the rear, pulling at an angle backwards. This is still 4 point chaining, but using only 2 chains.

I have so many chains that I do not need to conserve the use of them.

 

[woody]

I had not thought of that Thanks for posting.

 

[PILOON]

I'm lazy, I like to chain the front then back up 'til the front tires squash, set the hand brake and then chain the rear using but one binder.
Next drive for a bit, stop, and check all my work for tension.
Oh, and I like to wrap the binder lever with a bungee or wire 'just in case'.
(That is ever since I once arrived at a destination to find an opened binder and floppy lose chain.)

 

[azbinder]

I'm lazy, I like to chain the front then back up 'til the front tires squash, set the hand brake and then chain the rear using but one binder.
Next drive for a bit, stop, and check all my work for tension.
Oh, and I like to wrap the binder lever with a bungee or wire 'just in case'.
(That is ever since I once arrived at a destination to find an opened binder and floppy lose chain.)

This is why I use ratchet binders now. Also, have had a few bruises from the lever style.

 

[Fallon]

I'm lazy, I like to chain the front then back up 'til the front tires squash, set the hand brake and then chain the rear using but one binder.
Next drive for a bit, stop, and check all my work for tension.
Oh, and I like to wrap the binder lever with a bungee or wire 'just in case'.
(That is ever since I once arrived at a destination to find an opened binder and floppy lose chain.)

I use to do this. Figured it ended up being as fast using 4 binders as using 2 and shifting the tractor. I had extra chain & binders so I've gone that route these days. Jumping on & off the trailer and then the machine the extra time loading & unloading is annoying. I can do binders from the ground. It is effective though.

Regardless check your chains after a mile or 2.

 

[Dmacleo]

This is why I use ratchet binders now. Also, have had a few bruises from the lever style.

some US federal agencies now require ratchet type for transport (forestry service is one) and lever style not approved.
I would not be surprised to see DOT following this in years to come.

when hauling bobcat around I also wrap the the lever, usually the chain slack itself is enough but if not I bungee.

 

[jacric2005]

Anyone using the 7000 pound yellow ratchet tapes? We've been using two of those (front and back) for short hauls (5 miles or less)? John Deere 870 on 16' flatbed with two 3500 pound axles.

 

[fidowanttobe]

These are what I use. Also the regular 2" straps for the attachments and such.

 

[Fallon]

Anyone using the 7000 pound yellow ratchet tapes? We've been using two of those (front and back) for short hauls (5 miles or less)? John Deere 870 on 16' flatbed with two 3500 pound axles.

I looped one over the front bumper on my L3200 & cranked it down hard. A 15 minute ride later the not sharp at all corner of the bumper had half way cut through the heavy strap. I mostly switched to chain after that. Smarter strapping could have made a strap work, but I figured chain will be the safest if it rubs on some corner I don't expect.

I still have a milk crate or 2 of straps. Use them for other things in the truck & trailer. Strapped down some cabinets & boxes recently. But I avoid them for big metal stuff like tractors & implements now.

 

[azbinder]

When I worked for the dealer and was hauling equipment, I always tried to use chains and binders. If I did use straps and it was necessary to cross any edges, I would use some type of edge protectors. You can usually use sections of old fire hose, or ready made ones can be found at a truck equipment supply company.

 

[Sberry]

Is it legal to use straps on a tractor? There is a chain hard to see here that holds it forward. Camera makes it lok a little funnt but the front strap is more over the wheel than it looks too. This scheme really clamps it to the deck and chain to keep it from rolling backward.

 

[Fallon]

Is it legal to use straps on a tractor? There is a chain hard to see here that holds it forward. Camera makes it lok a little funnt but the front strap is more over the wheel than it looks too. This scheme really clamps it to the deck and chain to keep it from rolling backward. View attachment 699135

You need to use chain on equipment over 10,000lbs or for crushed cars according to regulations if I recall. Which generally means you are fine with straps for most of our equipment if you can safely attach them. Personally I figured it was safer & easier to move to chain.

 

[4570Man]

Is it legal to use straps on a tractor? There is a chain hard to see here that holds it forward. Camera makes it lok a little funnt but the front strap is more over the wheel than it looks too. This scheme really clamps it to the deck and chain to keep it from rolling backward. View attachment 699135

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with straps especially ones that heavy but they’re not doing a very good job preventing forward or backwards moving the way they’re placed.

 

[fidowanttobe]

I agree with you Sberry, squishing the tires to the deck with wheel straps really seems secure. I like them too.

 

[oosik]

I have 3" nylon ratchet straps. I use them to strap down logs on my farm wagon. I move the logs around on my property. The straps keep the logs from moving and creating an unbalanced load. I stack the logs - 4, then 3, then 2. They would, most likely, never move - the straps are just added security.