Big Cars are killing Americans

   / Big Cars are killing Americans #241  
Nuclear pickups sounds great. You can put the spent fuel rods in the bed and just park the truck in San Diego. When it gets stolen, no more fuel rod disposal problem!
I like it, but I did specify nukes for “power plants” lol
 
   / Big Cars are killing Americans #242  
   / Big Cars are killing Americans #243  
As I have mentioned here before, We have several vehicles, Most are what many people would consider "large". These days I'm more concerned with the comfort of the vehicle that I'm driving. Im also "large" 6-3 ish and 215 ish depending on what I ate for dinner..maybe more. Im just uncomfortable in compact cars. I don't like when my elbows are jammed against the door panel and the other one is 1/2 way into the passenger side of the car. My daily driver ( work truck ) is usually a 4x4 Sprinter van. Its big..and comfortable..for a van, Gets 19-20 mpg thats respectable.
At the end of the day after work..Im usually sore and if I go back out..Im looking for something I can stretch out in and enjoy a drive in a big comfy seat.
I once test drove a VW Jetta. My right foot could not fit between the brake pedal and center console if I wore boots, only light shoes. I was crammed into that car. Very disappointed.

We had a 2003 Impala and now a 2013 Impala. I actually have to move the seat forward to reach the pedals. I'm 6' 225#. Fits me real nice. I'm going to upgrade to a newer one in a couple more years. Very comfortable large sedans that get 30 on the highway and you can comfortably fit 4 adults, and 3-4 dead bodies in the trunks, too. 🙃

Just got a new work vehicle at my employer. Ford Transit Connect. OK little van for short runs. Couldn't drive it on the highway for long, though. Just a little cramped. But for city it's great. Very maneuverable and can park it anywhere.
 
   / Big Cars are killing Americans #244  
I get a kick out telling people that my 15 passenger van is the most efficient vehicle I own, even though it’s best mileage is in the upper teens with a tail wind.

The initial reaction is usually scoffing, then I explain that my family has 11 people in it. Taking one big van for all of us is far more efficient than using two or three vehicles to accomplish the same task. This summer it hauled all 11 of us on a 1300 mile round trip to Tennessee with everything we needed to stay for a week. There’s no other vehicle on the market that could have performed that task more efficiently than my van.

Efficiency can not be measured strictly by size or fuel mileage. No government or group of internet experts is more capable of making a value analysis than I am for my family. Vehicle size and fuel type should not be regulated by any group-think herd of experts.
 
   / Big Cars are killing Americans #245  
More worried about people getting hit by silent EVs than big SUVs.
Ain't that the truth. I'm half deaf with tinnitus in my ears. Most smaller newer vehicles are so quiet, I can't hear them coming up behind me.

I had to retrain myself once we moved off the dead end road in the country to a busy packed neighborhood in the city.

Look twice before stepping out to cross the street I almost stepped out in front of an old lady coming down the street. Was walking my dog and was across the street from my house. Thankfully she saw me and anticipated what I was fixing to do.
 
   / Big Cars are killing Americans #247  
I wonder how many people against pickup trucks are just envious. They cannot afford them, or their garages are too small. Maybe they cannot park them? Napoleon complex comes to mind.

"I want one but my wife won't let me, so no one should have one."

:)

Bruce
 
   / Big Cars are killing Americans #248  
yes, i now concede that the link was a mistake on my part. i should only have stated my opinion without the following link. mistake. but had the observation long before i ran across the article. still do
So, that sheds a little light on why you mentioned an article but none was included and a notation in very small type said something about being ‘updated by a moderator’.

A ‘moderator’ felt the need to step in and protect a bunch of adults from something printed at the end of an online article? Is that it?

This is insane the way this forum is ‘moderated’ to the point of actually thinking for You. WOW!
 
   / Big Cars are killing Americans #249  
I once test drove a VW Jetta. My right foot could not fit between the brake pedal and center console if I wore boots, only light shoes. I was crammed into that car. Very disappointed.

We had a 2003 Impala and now a 2013 Impala. I actually have to move the seat forward to reach the pedals. I'm 6' 225#. Fits me real nice. I'm going to upgrade to a newer one in a couple more years. Very comfortable large sedans that get 30 on the highway and you can comfortably fit 4 adults, and 3-4 dead bodies in the trunks, too. 🙃

Just got a new work vehicle at my employer. Ford Transit Connect. OK little van for short runs. Couldn't drive it on the highway for long, though. Just a little cramped. But for city it's great. Very maneuverable and can park it anywhere.
I had a Transit Connect for a couple years. It was the older original body style..2012 I believe. I got some big leather conversion van seats and had them stuffed in it. It helped..but was still a small vehicle. The only benefit was that I could get it into parking garages in the city and it got 23/24 mpg.
 
   / Big Cars are killing Americans #250  
aight, i'm just gonna unload here

I'll lay my cards out first that I don't really like BIG TRUCKS and BIG TRACTORS. Not my thing. I use a pickup and a tractor for my work and sometimes I have to fix them, which is why I'm on this and similar forums. I've lived both urban and rural. Currently and hopefully for the rest of my life I live rurally but I have lived in cities often over the years. I see a lot of people looking at this from a rural perspective (which makes sense, this IS a tractor forum!), so I want to add an urban perspective on the issue. The article (which I never saw the link for, but I assume it's the recent one in The Atlantic) is definitely written with urban perspective in mind.

This is about people living in cities wanting their neighborhoods to be safer and more livable. Many large cities have changed big time in the last 40 years. Cities of 40 years ago were mostly treated like service centers for a larger metro area. Lots of people would commute in for work but urban residents tended to skew to young singles, poorer folks, and people of color who, for various reasons, do not have a lot of clout with urban planning and infrastructure policy. Gentrification has really blown up in the past 20 years and now more affluent people want to raise their families in cities. And they want to walk or bike to a school or store with their kids (and let their older kids do so on their own) without running a gauntlet. They want parks, not parking lots. And they know how to navigate and leverage political power so they're pretty likely to make some headway. And good for them. They live there. I'm just passing through.

From a walking and cycling perspective, it's pretty simple: Cars are a threat to pedestrians and cyclists. And not vice versa. Period. All the victim-blaming of pedestrians on this thread doesn't change that, unless you consider the cost of re-detailing your grille and removing bloodstains to be higher than the value of someone's life. I don't care how good a driver you personally are or how clean your record is, vehicles are dangerous - a top 5 cause of death in many countries. If you have that one night in calving season or when your kid is sick and you don't get enough sleep, the risk goes up. And I get it, you still have to go to work or pick up meds or whatever. But you don't want to kill someone, even if they are on their phone or drunk (last I checked, these were not capital offenses). So why fight against measures that mitigate that risk? Like better bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure, lower speed limits, congestion zones, transit to get more cars off the road, and yes, smaller vehicles. Because:

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It feels like auto companies are marketing to our worst instincts - it's like an arms race where everyone needs to get a bigger truck to feel safe and see over and around the other big-ass trucks. Stick airbags in the pillars that protect the people inside the car but obscure the people outside. Who cares as long as you're safe? Everyone else can look out for themselves! Personal responsibility, you know?

The only way out of these kinds of vicious cycles is a regulatory nudge. No one is going to be banning large pickups, but it wouldn't be a bad thing if you can't drive them anywhere you want in cities, need an additional license endorsement, or pay a premium on insurance that would accurately reflect their costs to those around us. All these things would discourage people from buying a big truck unless they really needed it to make a living. I would love to see insurance companies switch to a mileage based premium instead of monthly that would encourage us to use the safer vehicle when possible. I think the roads would be a lot safer if we left the big truck at home whenever possible.

tldr - stop whining and let people in cities have safe streets, it's not an assault on your personal freedom any more than having to get a drivers license or purchase insurance.

p.s.
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544cc and 28 wild horses, baybeee. now that's a pickup for the city.
I looked at one of those several years ago. With a 700 lb payload, you're better off with Diggin's Taurus.

I will admit that it's kind of cute though.
 
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