BBQ Smokers

   / BBQ Smokers #321  
Another one to remember, if you ask for spatchcock here you get a young chicken.
We also call that method splitting when using it on a bird, butterfly when using meat (steak, pork etc).
 
   / BBQ Smokers #322  
What does butterfly mean? We're having a BBQ party next Saturday and I've never smoked chicken. I'll think I'll do a couple.

I need some help!

Basically, use a heavy knife to cut out the backbone/spine (some recommend heavy kitchen shears but I find that tedious). On a typical chicken, it's removing a 1" strip down the middle of the back by cutting through the ribs where they attach to the spine. Once the backbone is out, flip the bird over breast side up and press down to break the breastbone and flatten out the whole bird. I like to tie the two drumstick ends together with butcher twine. You can also invert the wing tips to tuck them in (protects them from burning). Once done, the whole bird will be a nice flat easy to manage unit, and this also greatly helps even out the cooking so that the breast meat and dark meat can cook in the same time without overdoing the breast. This works well for oven, grill, or smoker, and makes it real easy to apply rubs or seasoning inside or out.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #330  
That backbone would be good to make stock like he said. Maybe freeze and save up a few, then make stock and freeze it. Or mix with the cooked bones.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #331  
That backbone would be good to make stock like he said. Maybe freeze and save up a few, then make stock and freeze it. Or mix with the cooked bones.
We try to save all bones, etc for stock. Reduce it down some, then zip lock, label, and freeze for whenever. Amazing soups and sauces my better half makes because she doesn't throw out anything unless it has already given up all it has! That goes for leftovers too.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #332  
After making stock the bones are soft and we give them to the dogs, they love them and are easy to digest.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #333  
After making stock the bones are soft and we give them to the dogs, they love them and are easy to digest.

Yep! I have a recipe somewhere for home cooking for dogs. I'll see if I can find it.

Here we go!

Home-Cooking for Dogs 101





Please note: This is a basic program, and you should consult your veterinarian for your dog痴 specific needs.





2 whole chickens ( 3 pounds (6.6kg) minimum each



Fresh (or frozen) vegetables of your choice (I avoid onions, garlic, leeks and the like, as it *can* lead to hemolytic anemia. I also avoid grapes and raisins, as they have been linked to problems in some animals.)



Fresh fruit (whatever is in season, or can be obtained fresh frozen)



Place the chickens into a 鼎rock-Pot Slow Cooker. (I use a 6.5 Qt. (~6.8L) Crock-Pot) Add enough water to just cover the bottom of the pot. Add 2 tsp of Olive Oil, to prevent sticking and make clean up easier.



Cook on High for 12 hours. Once the chicken begins to cook the fat out of the skin, add enough water to keep the chicken covered. After the first 12 hours, stir the chickens well, and reduce heat to Low. Cook another 18 hours. After the 36 hours of cooking time, I add the vegetables to the mix, and cook another 10-12 hours on Low. If you are going to use any grains, I add them the last 3 hours of cooking. Turn off the cooker, and let cool until you can place your hands in the mix. Once it is cool enough, use your hands to mash around in the mix (you could use a potato masher), and you will find that the bones disintegrate as you mash, thereby eliminating worry of choking on a whole chicken bone. I then add any fruits, and let them just slightly wilt, before placing the mix into containers to go into the refrigerator and freezer. I keep a 2-3 day supply in the refrigerator, and place the rest into the freezer. My goal is to have a 30 day supply in the freezer, should I have to be out of town, or incapacitated for some reason.



I personally don稚 recommend much grain. While whole, organic grains can be healthy, they can be difficult to come by in some areas. I have also found grains can aggravate allergies in some dogs.



I try to make my mixture to be 50% protein and 50% vegetables and fruit, pre-cooked weight. This is for dogs that have no other health issues. If you are going to add grain, then I would consider it to be part of the vegetable and fruit section. Using this method, I don稚 drain the fat, once the dogs have become acclimated to the diet. Pets need some fat in the diet, so this keeps me from having to add additional supplements. Also, since the bone is in the food, I don稚 worry about the Ca:p ratio and adding bone meal.



You can substitute beef brisket, beef heart, ground beef, ground pork, pork brisket or other meats for variety, or as the dog痴 condition warrants. If cooking items with no bone, I would decrease the cooking time to 12-24 hours (the 24 hours for pork), and add the vegetables halfway through the cooking. You may also add bone meal if you are not feeding anything with bone in it.



As far as fruits and vegetables, most anything that is healthy for a human is healthy for your dog, with the exceptions listed above. I use a variety of vegetables, such as organic fresh carrots, fresh (or fresh frozen) zucchini, yellow squash, peaches, tomatoes, berries, melons, green beans, green peas, sweet potatoes, (I boil these separately until tender, then remove the skin and place into the mix with the fruit.), bananas, apples, broccoli, pumpkin, spinach, etc. I will add 2-4 different fruit/vegetable items in each 澱atch of food I make, and then will add 2-4 different items in the next 澱atch? This way, I balance the diet over the week/month, as opposed to trying to balance the diet with each meal. It also lets me use the fruits and vegetables when they are in season, and freeze some for when little is growing fresh.



As always, you and your veterinarian are your dog痴 best advocate. Always consult him/her with any questions about what meats and vegetables are best for your individual pet. This becomes even more important if your pet already has any health issues.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #334  
Thanks for that, we give them the leftover stock but remove all traces of onion etc, I don't know if in its cooked state it is harmful but in the interest of avoiding impending impecunity via a vet bill I spend a few minutes taking it out.
My daughters friend is a vet nurse and tells us she is working over Easter tending to dogs who have been given chocolate.
We have dog chocolate at home which is carob, he turns his nose up at it but if we have a chocolate ourselves and put a couple of these in the empty wrapper he can't get enough.
I sometimes think dogs are stupid.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #335  
Dang 2LC,do you think your dogs might have me over for dinner some time. :laughing:
 
   / BBQ Smokers #336  
Dang 2LC,do you think your dogs might have me over for dinner some time. :laughing:
And any room for my three dogs at the trough, 2LC? A lot of thought went into that recipe, I think I will try it. :thumbsup:
 
   / BBQ Smokers #338  
I'm with you jaxs. I would belly up along with the dogs.

Actually about as close to that recipe I have ever gotten is just cooking the chicken. Too much trouble; I'll make a pot of stew first.

BTW, got that recipe from my favorite veterinary.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #339  
I like mesquite for grilling steaks, but I think it's too strong for smoking. Hickory or plain oak for smoking, for me.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #340  
I like mesquite for grilling steaks, but I think it's too strong for smoking. Hickory or plain oak for smoking, for me.

I’m settling in on the blend of hickory, cherry, and maple for all around for slow cooking on my Traeger. I’m not a fan of Mesquite.
 

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