Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Gale Hawkins]

I think we can add Nissan to the list of car makers with no clear paths forward.

 

[PuffyC]

I think we can add Nissan to the list of car makers with no clear paths forward.

Debt is not inherently good or bad, and with the vast majority of Ford's debt coming from Ford Credit it's not a big concern IMO. I would assume GM is in a similar boat but I don't know. Nissan's biggest problems seem to be poor product and poor leadership, two things that are a cancer in any business. If they can turn either around while being anchored to Renault is anybody's guess.

 

[airbiscuit]

Maybe they should partner with Citroen.

 

[Hay Dude]

They had electric vehicles over 100 years ago. Nothing new there.

120!

 

[Larry Caldwell]

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts"

Richard P. Feynman

Richard Feynman – Scientist. Teacher. Raconteur. Musician

Richard Feynman, scientist, teacher, raconteur, and drummer. He assisted in the development of the atomic bomb, expanded the understanding of quantumelectrodynamics, translated Mayan hieroglyphics, and cut to the heart of the Challenger disaster.

www.feynman.com

Yeah, my nuclear physics prof was Feynman's office mate on the Manhattan Project.

 

[Citydude]

Citydude, you know something tells me all the recycled, contaminated battery parts won’t end up in downtown LA, they’ll end up in landfills out in beautiful places, like Wyoming, Montana, etc. where all the “unimportant“ people live.

Exactly...

 

[Citydude]

Biden's EV Push Includes a Battery Recycling Program

"EV Push" talk is cheap. We are at least 10 years late to the EV evolution that started in 2008.

And this guy is leading the charge?

 

[MossRoad]

120!

220, 221, whatever it takes!

 

[buckeyefarmer]

, love that line.

 

[Grumpycat]

Anti-EV people often bring up power plants, not realizing that the modern coal plants are cleaner than the typical car - it's much easier to scrub that exhaust in one place than in a million cars, and more likely to be maintained (assuming the EPA hasn't been gutted). Natural gas? *way* cleaner than ICE. In what world did you think this would be a gotcha?

I’ve said may times here and elsewhere that I’ve done the math (which the EPA hides because they hate coal) using the EPA’s data available in 2013 my power hog Tesla Model S (380 Wh/mile from the power grid, a new Model 3 can be as little as 260 Wh/mile) running on pure coal fired USA electricity has emissions comparable to a 30 MPG gasoline automobile.

But, is effortlees to run the Tesla on nuclear, natural gas, hydro, coal, oil, solar, or wind. While diluting gasoline with only 10% ethanol is a huge effort.

Depending on cost of gasoline my cost/mile for electricity is between 60 and 90 MPG.