Bad News!

JimBinMI · May 20, 2000

Mark,

I can hear those cash registers at the NH dealers going
ca-ching' ca-ching' /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Steve Carver is advertising overstock on L4310HST!!/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Stock and Profit is up for New Holland, better watch out!!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

JimBinMI

The world without Blue would be too Orange!

W5FL · May 20, 2000

You said you were a teacher. How about a little substance in these posts about Blue. We want you to get out and get some good information that the rest of us need to know. Go do some research. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

I really would like to know how many sales there are for the different models and manufacturers of tractors each month or year. I have seen the data from many years ago, but nothing recent. I have seen no data that BLUE sells very many tractors anymore. They sure don't around here in N. Texas. Kubota seems to sell a lot more tractors (at least compact) than either John Deere or New Holland. I hope that tractor sales have not dropped off in the last few decades, as I see more tractors, but a lot of them are OLD (and mostly green).

As I have said before, I set out to buy a BLUE or GREEN tractor and wound up with an ORANGE one. Guess everyone has different requirements or expectations. I think if you have been burned before, you are much more careful to assume NOTHING and take a long time to be sure you make the right decision the second time.

I would have bought my tractor from Carver, but he just couldn't get them in as fast as he was selling them at the time I wanted to buy mine. He was a big help and when I buy another one, I will sure consider him. He advertises over stocks like everyone else, which loosely translated is I have a good price on these tractors for a reason that is different than someone else. If he had BLUE tractors he would be advertising them as overstocked, also. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

JimBinMI · May 20, 2000

Wen,

"Life is TOO important to be taken Seriously!" Oscar Wilde

Seriously, I would like to know the sales figures also, it would be interesting. If you would like to pay me my hourly rate, I think we could negotiate some sort of deal for me to go out and find all of the numbers...you don't see people posting to Bird asking him how to get out of a ticket or other violation now do you! And I haven't heard of anyone asking PaulB for a free operation yet!

As for your data on Blue, New Holland is now part of Case New Holland (CNH), when they merged they had very similar sales figures, almost even. They are now the WORLD'S #1 PRODUCER OF AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT! Are you sure you want to see the #'s? /w3tcompact/icons/cool.gif

In addition, don't always take me seriously...I get enough of serious at work! /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif If you really want to know the good, bad and the ugly of today's youth...ask a teacher, it's amazing what kids talk about like it's nothing. It's changed quite a bit in my 16 years in the classroom! Enough, now I'm the one getting serious and my lawn is yelling at me!

JimBinMI

The world without Blue would be too Orange!

W5FL · May 20, 2000

I was afraid that all the buyouts and mergers had made most of the number meaningless anyway. Don't think CASE is doing too well in the small tractor market. My cousin was a CASE dealer and recommended that I buy Kubota instead.

I certainly admire you for your dedication, but would not be a teacher for any amount of money in the world! It is only fun to teach when the kids want to learn. Teaching technical subjects in college and business is fun and I have done a little of that, but they WANT to be there and that is much different.

If you had your land improved in January 1995, the Terra Server website that was listed is really neat. Almost like an aerial photo.

Click on this and you will see my 10 acres including tank next to road, garden with fence around it and gravel road that comes up to 50x90 barn then up through the 6 trees (1/4 inch dark circles) to house and then gravel road back out to street on left. You can see the fence line just north of the tank and about 1 inch South of the house. If you zoom out, you can see all of the other 5 acre tracts in that area. There is a dark rectangular area whee the barn is located and a similar but amaller dark area with a circle on each end where the house is located. I am not sure what these are, but they may be parts of the metal roof that are cool since this is an IR photo. The septic lines show up very clearly but not sure if it is the temperature difference or whether the grass had not grown back when the photo was made. It will zoom in to 1 meter resolution. Pretty good. http://www.terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=10&T=1&X=3155&Y=18195&Z=14&W=1 The lower right quadrangle is my place bordered by the roads on the left and the right..

Now I have shown you my house, now show me yours - anyone else invited to do the same and we will know a lot more about each other's place then.

Now if a teacher couldn't find this, it would really look bad for our educational system! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

_RaT_ · May 20, 2000

Jim, I have to ask you something that is very serious and therefore very important, the heck with a Mr Oscar Wilde. The question is this: What outfits do you like to wear while tractoring. Do you find some colors clash with the BLUE TC18? And do you prefer jumpsuits like the ones old men who drive RV's around wear, particularly when doing maintenance on your TC 18. I should think something in a powder blue might go well with the darker BLUE of your TC18. Since footwear plays such an important role whilst tractoring, I should think a pair of loafers would work well here. They wouldnt overwhelm the deck of the TC18, and the light in the loafer feel should also work well with the TC18. Perhaps you could enlighten those of us with different colored rigs what works with BLUE. Do tell. And remember what an old comedian said, "I'm taking it with me"!

Ever so serious, Rat...

Bird · May 20, 2000

Careful now, Rat, you might step on someone's toes with this "jumpsuits like the ones old men who drive RV's around wear." I just almost never wear anything but Dickies jumpsuits, I'm an old man, RVs were my hobby for many years including 5 years full time traveling, hmmm, guess you got me pegged pretty well./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Bird

Thomas · May 20, 2000

Jim..Jim..Jim.
Yes indeed the stocks are up for New Hollard,but just like the weather just wait and it shall change.

Okay I have a confession.
When I was looking to purchase a compact tractor New Holland was my FIRST choice.
Do to the dealership we couldn't come to agreement,and
Kubota has met all my wants and needs.

Hope it has stop raining long enough for you to enjoy your tractor time.

Have fun and stay safe.

Bird · May 20, 2000

Wen, it's kind of hard to tell much about someone else's place without some explanation, but mine is at
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=10&T=1&X=3565&Y=17694&Z=14&W=1
It shows the road our place faces, and the one running northwest and a 5 acre place adjoining that road, then my 10 acres with the barn on the right, my 40'x60' shop building closer to the road than the house, and the house shown (on March 8, 1995) is an old, ragged, single wide mobile that has since been replaced by a new doublewide. The dark circles, of course, are trees. Across the road is all Corps of Engineers land around Navarro Mills Lake.

Bird

W5FL · May 20, 2000

Re: Aerial Photos!

Good explanation. It is as clear as a photo. Your land is pretty well covered with vegetation and the construction is clearly defined. Mine was new when the photos were made and the distinction between the graded soil and the buildings is not very high in contrast. How much of that is your garden? It was really hard making out the tomato plants. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

MChalkley · May 20, 2000

Well, mine is at http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=11&T=1&X=911&Y=10391&Z=18&W=1. The road you see running from lower left to top right is part of my driveway and the house you see between the top center and top right navigation arrows is mine. The property goes from the Piankatank River in the upper right to the lake in the lower left and northeast to the development you see, then back southwest out of the frame until the farm fields you see on both sides of the driveway if you zoom out. If you zoom out to .25 mile resolution, the double curve you see in the driveway at the bottom of the frame is the one on the steep hill that washed out (not quite) in yesterday's thunderstorm.

Mark

W5FL · May 20, 2000

Nice piece of property! You really DO NEED the Roadmaster to grade that road. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Bird · May 20, 2000

Re: Aerial Photos!

Wen, that old picture was made when we had been here just over two months. The prior owner had a little 15'x50' garden right behind the house, and I used it for a couple of years, but it's just lawn now. A newer picture might show a separately fenced garden area. The basic garden is now 83'x103' and the grandkids' little melon patch is about 25'x105'. And tomorrow we're going to have to wade in the mud because the squash, cucumbers, and green beans have to be picked or they'll be too big to be any good. My brother and his wife are coming to help, so we'll see how many carrots, bell peppers, cabbage, onions, and potatoes we can get in and stored, too. I've got some big green tomatos now, but none showing any signs of ripening yet./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Bird

Bird · May 20, 2000

Where in the world (or Commonwealth of Virginia) is Grafton? I don't find that in my big road atlas.

Bird

MChalkley · May 20, 2000

Bird, can't you read? What did the map say - 6 miles NE of where I live, didn't it? /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Actually, I have no idea where Grafton is. I was surprised to see that on the map, too. I've heard people refer to it, and I've heard it mentioned on NOAA weather alerts, but I've never seen a sign or heard anyone say specifically where it is. I think it's one of those places that's on a USGS map somewhere, so everybody who doesn't know anything about the area knows where it is, and the only locals who do are the ones who've lived there 50 years or more.

Mark

MChalkley · May 20, 2000

Wen - I told you I needed a better road grading tool. I could be an excellent "in the field" tester of their products. And it needs it even more right now than it usually does, after those storms yesterday.

Mark

MChalkley · May 20, 2000

BTW, Bird, you might find Cash in your Atlas, which is a crossroads a couple hundred yards from where my driveway connects with Hwy 198. Back up 198 5 miles to the west is Glenns, a mile or downriver is Freeport, and 5 miles east on 198 is Harcum. If none of those are in your atlas, you're on your own.

Mark

gordon · May 20, 2000

My place is in the center of the map the T cut into the woods my land is all woods. It extends down out of the picture to the south and goes to the drainage ditch on the right. I love it but my wife wants to clear alittle more so she can have a lawn--bla--.http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=11&T=1&X=1099&Y=10825&Z=18&W=1 Its 43 acres of woods and a 16 acre woodlot. I want to buy the land to the right of the drainage ditch two parcels but they don't want to sell but they said I have first rights as long as I don't subdivide it.
Gordon

Bird · May 20, 2000

Mark, are you sure you're in Virginia? My old 1993 Rand McNally Motor Carriers' Road Atlas doesn't list any of those places./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif And I thought if it listed Frost, TX (population 579), it would have just about every town. However, I see it doesn't have Irene, TX, where my phone service comes from, and it doesn't show Brushie Prairie, TX, which is the nearest "community" to me.

Bird

Bird · May 20, 2000

Mark, I did think it was odd that yours shows a distance from Grafton, which I can't find on a map, and mine shows a distance from Dallas when there are a half dozen good sized towns between here and there.

Bird

JimBinMI · May 20, 2000

Re: JimBinMI Estate, ha ha!

Wen,

OK, after Bird posted the website the other day, I looked for awhile but didn't think I had found my house. The last satellite picture is 1988 and the house was built, by others, in 1987-88. After your prodding I looked awhile longer, after spending quality time with my NH TC18 and Woods mower and putting on some weed & feed!

Anyway, here it is but I don't think I saved it in hypertext, don't know how? My little 8 acres is on the bottom of this image, I sit on the west side of the only road in the photo that goes n/s. There is one property north of me before it becomes farmer's field. You can see a lot a light area around the house, wonder if there wasn't a lawn at that time? my field goes to the west and at the back it gets darker, 20 rows of scotch pines and walnut trees. Much bigger now than then. Can't see my 32 x 48 barn because it was just built last summer, can't see the swimming pool cause it was put in in 1993, can't see the movie stars cause there aren't any! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif the property has 265' of n/s frontage on the road and is 1331' deep, long rectangle.

If you recognize it while you're flying by sometime, have the pilot beep the horn! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

http://terraserver.com/image.asp?S=11&T=100&X=47&Y=56&Z=508&W=1

JimBinMI

The world without Blue would be too Orange!