Bad battery ???

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G3033H

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Elma, NY
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LS G3033H
Hey all have a really weird problem, I got the tractor started and working today for about an hr. then brother in law stopped by so I shut down restarted ran for another 30 min. And the tractor died, no dash lights no nothing, pulled the battery cleaned the terminals and it won't charge ! Checked charger that's working, after 3-4 hrs on a 20 amp charge I would think it would have some kind of charge but nothing ! It's only 5 mths old The tractor since I got it and 81 hrs. Any thoughts ???
 
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check voltage on bat and report back.
 
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It is "0" no volts no amps right now I have it on charge at 5-6 amps
 
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Hey Murphy1244, it is at "0" volts
 
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Your battery is fried, sorry but you must check your main ground wire before you install a new one.
 
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The ground was is ok the tractor is only 5 months old, this should be under a warranty I would think, I tried to jump it with the truck and got power to go thru the tractor but not enough to crank the engine to start it
 
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The ground was is ok the tractor is only 5 months old, this should be under a warranty I would think, I tried to jump it with the truck and got power to go thru the tractor but not enough to crank the engine to start it

You have a major short or a no ground problem. If under warranty take it in. Sorry.
Murph
 
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Thanks Murph
 
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No problem my man.
Murph out
 
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Your batt has an open buss connector inside that should be making connections between cells. There is one between each cell. In this open condition the battery can be dangerous because a spark can occur at the opening [hairline crack] as you try to charge or take current. The danger would accrue if you were able to get it to trickle charge until it was fully charged. Water begins to electrolyse to 2H and O at this point. If charge was stopped and before these dissipated a load was applied the resultant internal spark could explode the batt. They should give you a new batt.
larry
 
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Hey Larry thanks ! That is the weirdest thing, 1 min. It's clicking the next it's gone !! Put a new battery in after I checked & cleaned the ground, it started right up ! Got the driveway cleared and ready for Christmas Have a merry Christmas all !!!
 
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Larry many years ago on first tractor, I noticed something dripping out the front of the tractor. It was Battery acid:shocked:. The tractor was new, the dealers mechanic came out and declared it a bad battery, and replaced it.. Leaving me to clean up the mess (tons of baking soda). Of course the mechanic never thought to check the charging voltage.. Soon the new battery was cracked and more acid dripping from battery pan. They brought out a third battery, I said I will install it, as now I had a major acid mess in the battery tray..I cleanedit up and repainted, a few days later I installed the battery, it started right up and all seemed fine, then I checked the charging voltage...:shocked: 17 volts:shocked: Whoops. the Alternator is full fielded. So I started checking on wires on the alternator.. HUM this loose regulator wire have anything to do with it?.. YEP that was all it was. No regulation, the alternator is running full wide open and the outgassing cracked the battery cases. Lucky it did not explode.

James K0UA
 
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Larry many years ago on first tractor, I noticed something dripping out the front of the tractor. It was Battery acid:shocked:. The tractor was new, the dealers mechanic came out and declared it a bad battery, and replaced it.. Leaving me to clean up the mess (tons of baking soda). Of course the mechanic never thought to check the charging voltage.. Soon the new battery was cracked and more acid dripping from battery pan. They brought out a third battery, I said I will install it, as now I had a major acid mess in the battery tray..I cleanedit up and repainted, a few days later I installed the battery, it started right up and all seemed fine, then I checked the charging voltage...:shocked: 17 volts:shocked: Whoops. the Alternator is full fielded. So I started checking on wires on the alternator.. HUM this loose regulator wire have anything to do with it?.. YEP that was all it was. No regulation, the alternator is running full wide open and the outgassing cracked the battery cases. Lucky it did not explode.

James K0UA
Wow ! Good thing you caught that !
 
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Update, went to the dealer to get the fuel filter also took in the battery and he tested it and gave me a new one just like that !!! Now if it stays running it would help !!!
 
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It is "0" no volts no amps right now I have it on charge at 5-6 amps

I don't think a battery that is at zero volts will take a charge. My trickle charger won't even try if the battery is below 3 volts.
 
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Had a camera at work with a rechargeable battery and they could never get it charged, so I set it up with a battery that had a charge and once the charger started the other battery would charge up, like you said it needed a small charge to start the charger. Same with some golf cart batteries you need a charge on the battery to start the charger Thanks Josh
 

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