Backhoe hauling question

[john_bud]

Hi,

Put the hoe on my trailer and it sort of takes over. The trailer is 18' long and that's about 4 foot too short.

If I roll the hoe back and balance the load the bucket is off the deck. I was thinking that I can get a couple pieces of 6" channel 6-8' long and bolt them to the deck so they are sticking out the back 3-4'. Then tie the bucket down to that.

Thoughts?

legal / enforement ?

I would also need to make a front cross bar that would hold the FEL bucket up or it will smack the truck!

And some wheel chocks to ensure the tractor stays put.


Oh boy, that's a lot, eh?


It's a 12k trailer by the way.

 

[Rara Avis]

For Illinois...
A combination of vehicles specially designed to transport motor vehicles
may have an overall length of 65 ft. plus a front overhang of 3 ft. and a
rear overhang of 4 ft. on Class I and II highways. On all other highways
and streets, the maximum overall length is 60 ft. including load.

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/pu...dsd_x14210.pdf

Didn't find Wisconsin data...

 

[Ductape]

You won't want your extension more than 3' beyond your tail light lens.

 

[tlbuser]

Hi,

Put the hoe on my trailer and it sort of takes over. The trailer is 18' long and that's about 4 foot too short.

Thoughts?

Why not load the hoe end first and rest the bucket in the bed of the truck? You may have to block up the rear bucket to keep your turn radius though.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I agree, back the thing on the trailer but do not put the BH in the trucks bed. Seems like it will cause more problems than anything. Once on the trailer swing the BH to one side and rest it on the trailer then curl your FEL bucket under and this should shorten the rig enough and balance the load better for your truck.

Chris

 

[john_bud]

The bucket in the bed of the truck may be fine for going straight, but on a turn ---- eh, not so good!

I got a weight distribution hitch today and will try loading backwards. I think there is room for the bucket on the tongue of the trailer. Might help if I cut out the jack and move it forward. I'd be worried about how far off the back the FEL bucket would wind up being.

Putting the hoe to the side won't save much room. The bucket is 3' wide and it can't go very far to the side or it's off the trailer. I don't think it would gain much if any at all.

 

[KB9UDE]

What is the weight rating of your trailer in the pic??

John

 

[Diamondpilot]

I think there is room for the bucket on the tongue of the trailer. Might help if I cut out the jack and move it forward.

Be careful with that. If you get it too far forward you will do damage to your tailgate if you lower it with the trailer attached. Also with a forward tongue jack if you try towing your trailer with a SUV you will not be able to lift the rear hatch if too far forward. Trust me, been there done that on both points.

Chris

 

[Builder]

What is the weight rating of your trailer in the pic??

12K.

Remember the backhoe boom and the FEL needs to be chained & bindered to the trailer deck across the bucket. At least that's the way it is in my state.

Your trailer looks way maxed out and easy prey for the cherry tops. A gooseneck would be just the ticket.

 

[Willl]

Regardless of it's weight capacity, it's too short.

 

[john_bud]

Regardless of it's weight capacity, it's too short.

Sad, but true.

Actually, it was the thought I had when I went in to get the camera. Thought that hitting the brain trust may be worth it.


I may unlimber the welder and add a few feet out the back....

 

[BarryinMN]

I had a 7x18, backed the bh on put the bucket teeth on the 2x8 across the A frame. Kept it from hitting the tailgate on a turn. In order to fit it the front bucket was outside the rear standup ramps. This took tongue weight off & cause mild fish tailing over say 60 mph. not a problem as I usually tow at 50-55 mph and my tow vehicle is a 1 ton diesel dually dump with 9K empty weight. 12K trailer, tractor is 7K so no where near weight limits just didn't fit well.

New trailer is 8x24 deckover: positioning forward, backward is no big deal.

 

[Eagleview]

Just curl the front bucket under and lower it onto the deck/drawbar as this will gain 1 1/2' from how you have it in the photo . Stand the backhoe up a little more and bring the bucket in , you will not be over height and it should all fit . Drive slowly though as it will be like the tail wagging the dog . Can you lower the legs without hitting the trailer gaurds as this will stabilise it .

 

[tlbuser]

The bucket in the bed of the truck may be fine for going straight, but on a turn ---- eh, not so good!

You may have to block up the rear bucket to keep your turn radius though.

You want the bucket bottom to be able to pivot without the boom turning. We used to place a plywood scrap under the bucket for that.

 

[tlbuser]

I agree, back the thing on the trailer but do not put the BH in the trucks bed. Seems like it will cause more problems than anything. Once on the trailer swing the BH to one side and rest it on the trailer then curl your FEL bucket under and this should shorten the rig enough and balance the load better for your truck.

Chris

Being over width can be alot worse than over length. Especially when you forget which side hangs over until after you just hit something

 

[tlbuser]

Remember the backhoe boom and the FEL needs to be chained & bindered to the trailer deck across the bucket. At least that's the way it is in my state.

yea, but that rule can play differently because

a) 10,000 lbs and over equipment weight
b) combination units the load has to be secured to either vehicle or trailer

your results,enforcement and mileage may differ

 

[john_bud]

Thanks for the input guys.

The top of the boom is at 11' 6" in the picture. I wouldn't want to go much higher than that. The dipper stick is also curled as far as it can go. The old hoe's don't tuck in tight like the new ones!

Didn't do much with this situation today. Was making ready for a weekend long work out on roads, trails, cutting and such. New easement road and there are a lot of spots in the 1 mile length that need TLC. That's actually why I want to get the hoe up there. The low spots need to be ditched so water will be away from the trails. Nasty clay base gets soft and gooey in the spring or after a hard rain. Especially the low spots. Took 3 hours to go 300 yards last year after a rain. Didn't like that! Now it's dry enough to work the roadway up to a level where the 2wd hoe can get in.

jb