B7510 VS the JD4110

jkm · Mar 4, 2005

I was about to purchase the B 7510 and the JD dealer called.

Here is the deal. B7510 with 302 FEL, 60in mmm and 48in box blade for 15422 including taxes at around 735 dollars. JD offered the 4110 with 410 loader 60in MMM and 48in box blade for 15650 before taxes 782.50=16432.50

For the one thousand dollar difference....which one would you recommend?
A couple of points...JD has position control on the 3pt hitch... B7510 has quarter inching valve....not much of a difference.
7510 has 21hp 4110 20hp. almost the same pto hp....both are hst.
60in mmm for 7510 is 10 gauge and 4110 is 7 gauge.
box blade for 7510 is a leinbach jd is frontier...
Please send me your feedback ...I want to go ahead and buy one today...THANKS!

jkm · Mar 4, 2005

One other question...a friend of mine has an L series Kubota and he suggested that I get the back tires loaded....he said that I would need this as a ballast for FEL work....is that accurate?

riptides · Mar 4, 2005

When you sit on them, which one is most comfortable for you?
Are the levels and pedals to your liking?

What about a significant other? Someone other than yourself in line for using it? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Maybe you should get their input too.

I wanted my wife and kids to be comfortable in the operations of my equipment. I could use the help now and then.

Bottom line for me... my butt needed to be comfy and my brain didn't need to work hard to find a lever, switch or pedal.

Oh... your OK with both dealers, service wise? Hear anything positive or negative about them?

Good luck!
-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

jkm · Mar 4, 2005

Both equally comfortable...had my wife drive the 7510 and she liked it....Both dealers seem to want my business and both seem great... I have always been a deere guy...but my last purchase had lots of issues....just never owned a kubota and do not have experience with it.

Dutch445 · Mar 4, 2005

Here are a couple things to think of while making your decision...
How did you like the drive system,, treadle pedle vs 2 pedals for the hydro?
Where is the hydraulic control valve for the loader on the bota vs. the jd? is it on the loader mast or on the tractor?
did you really drive both to see how they feel from the seat while using the loader ?
you mentioned a heavier mower deck on the jd, what about the loader? are they comparable? or is one heavier than the other.. also what about implement removal etc... i know the 410 loader is 2 mins to get off,, don't know about the botas loader.
service, parts, and resale? all things to consider above dollars and cents.
if you had a bad experience with one jd dealer, how far is the next one?
lots to consider, big investment... both fine machines.

good luck!
/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

riptides · Mar 4, 2005

If you can look past your prior experience with the deere, and "have always been a deere" guy. Hey go with them again.

But, if you don't have the warm and fuzzies, $1k buys some more implements and a few tanks of diesel. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Both are fine machines, but money is money. Have your deere person throw in a rear blade? Or a rake?

-Good luck. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

KennedyDiesel · Mar 4, 2005

The dealer makes a big difference. Around here, Deere has better support.

Just wanted to point out if you did not realize that the 7 gauge deck is much heavier/tougher than 10 gauge.

OrangeGuy · Mar 4, 2005

Before I purchased my Kubota L3430, I considered the smaller 7510 and comparable JD 4110. Had I purchased the smaller tractor, I would have purchased the Kubota 7510. IMO it was/is much more tractor. The Yanmar based JD 4110 just didn't seem to be as much tractor as the Kubota.

In my area, my Kubota dealer regularly has the Yanmar based JD's in his trade-in lot.

I would recommend the Kubota 7510.

OrangeGuy

Cliff_Johns · Mar 5, 2005

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The Yanmar based JD 4110 just didn't seem to be as much tractor as the Kubota. )</font>

Hey, that's pretty good. Given that the 4110 has a number of features the 7510 doesn't have, I find this statement pretty strange. More tractor in what way? Can you be specific?

Oh, I know, you probably mean the 7510 is more tractor because you have to use a clutch. Or may because if you run out of fuel you have to reprime the system instead of just starting it back up. Maybe you think real tractors don't have independant mid and rear PTOs that can be turned on individually or together and that real tractor have 1/4 inching valves instead of that new-fangled position control stuff. Ok, I'm being sarcastic. Probably sounding a bit green, but I considered the 7610 .vs. the 4110 and found the 7610 lacking in many features, especially the ones that don't show up on the brochures.

I kind of wanted the more full featured Kubota 2410, but I decided that the 4110 was a better deal pricewise for the features I got (I didn't need the extra HP). The 7510 is a low feature, simple machine. There are advantages to that. Personally, I wanted the feature rich version, and the closest Kubota had was the 2410 and that cost too much (and I admit, it didn't feel as good to sit in a drive for me -- personal choice) and I got the JD 4110 (with the apparently dreaded Yanmar engine).

Back to the point:

I guess my view is that the price you got $15,650 for the 4110 setup is really exceptional. Very low. Probably 2K low at least. And I think the price you got for the 7510 is high. But if they are that close, I don't think there's even a contest, (even if this is the Kubota board, and I will get shot).

If you like the way the 7510 feels and/or like the dealer better, you should address the cost difference with your dealer.

Also do a search, the 7610/4110 discussion comes up a lot, though the cost difference is usually much greater, and I think that is the key issue here.

I apologise if I've dipped too deeply into the Kubota side of the board with JD vote.

Cliff

LAXPatrick · Mar 6, 2005

You got that price on a 4110? Hydrostatic or manual?

Nice...

Wish I could get my guy to come down a bit - I'm a little below that for a 4010 and am concerned that a little bit more power might be needed...

LAXPatrick