Are there any Tractors " Manufactured" in the US anymore.?

[Agrantina]

Lets ask this question- What tractors and their major parts (engine-tranny-etc? are made by that particular company? So if you look at American versus Foreign you have to look at foreign tractors in the same way. A lot of the major tractor brands have engines made by someone else and tranny痴 made by yet another company and all are put together at a different place. So, I see no other advantage except to buy the best quality that I can afford- no matter where its made, assembled or shipped from. We (Americans) just have to start thinking more Globally- Internationally and not limit ourselves to narrow minded thoughts of 登nly American made- Heck the finest shotguns in the world are made in Italy, our boys over seas carry Berretta pistols and Bennelli shotguns to protect our freedom. Sure would not want one of them to have a jammed gun just because it was made in America!

AndyG

 

[jonyyuma]

You had it right about,"IF we go back into a war". The US is already buying "others" war materials. One reason The GOV. could not let General Motors fold because of corporate greed...Robots are actually building better products here in America, But it takes craftsmen to keep them going and producing.Yes, I drive Foreign on the road...a matter of preference and dependability.

 

[rd_macgregor]

I think US industry and workers got complacent/lazy in the face of inferior post-WWII imported goods. The Japanese, especially, responded to bad market image by introducing better engineering and manufacturing/quality control while US manufacturers were resting on their laurels (and fighting losing battles with unions).
A lot of folks mention the low wages of foreign workforce, and this certainly has long been an advantage for offshore manufacturing. However, an additional factor in their success over the past couple of decades or so has been their use of state-of-the art technologies. As the steel, shipbuilding, automobile, tractor and other heavy industries developed and expanded in China, Japan, Korea, etc. they built brand new factories with the very best, most efficient technology (eg, robotics). Meanwhile, US manufacturers were still working with 1950's technology and aging plants and have been very slow to replace the old tech with new. Much of the newer technology reduces labour, which unions resist, so US manufacturers circumvent union hassles, and minimize cost of production by outsourcing to foreign suppliers.
If the foreign-made stuff was inferior, it would be scorned; when it is as good or better...and often cheaper...than US competing goods, its no surprise that US industry suffers job losses.
BOB

 

[ToadHill]

A common misconception that couldn't be further from the truth. The United States is currently the top manufacturing country in the world.

Have you bought any German made products lately? Some of their stuff makes ours look pretty rough.

 

[mlauk]

Yup, in fact the worst tractor we ever had was made in America, a JD 4400, a complete and udder lack of R & D and poor quality control IMO.

Some of the best we've had were made overseas:

JD 2550, made in Mannheim Germany, engine made in Saran France, excellent tractor.

All of the Kubota's we've owned (B3200, M9540, ZD21) have been excellent.

My father also just purchased a JD 5045E (traded the 4400 for it), it was made in India, IIRC. Initial impressions of it are great.

I'm not anti-American in any way, but I know a good product when I see it, and lately I haven't seen much coming from here that I like (with relation to tractors and vehicles.)

The JD 4400 is a Yanmar tractor, made in Japan. I guess everything made overseas isn't great.

 

[mlauk]

It's a world economy now folks. Hardly anything is made in one country anymore. My Chevy truck has more imported parts than my wife's Honda I think. Does anyone have a Zenith TV? An American made cut? not anymore. unless they are antique. It'll never be the way it used to be. sad but true.

I still have a Zenith TV and is the main TV we watch in the living room. I doubt your Chevy truck has more imported parts than your Honda, but yes they all have imported parts.

 

[TripleR]

Some Chevy trucks are made in Mexico, but parts come from all over.

 

[jml755]

Cat driver makes good points. Remember, though, the move offshore didn't happen overnight. The Japanese did not just wake up after WWII and start making quality stuff. Look up Dr. E Deming. He was the father of SPC (statistical process control) and was not taken seriously here in the States. He went to Japan and his methods revolutionized their industries. Also, the computer age that the US spawned has made it easier to work globally. Even 30 yrs ago, you couldn't wait weeks to get drawings sent back and forth overseas. Nowadays, engineering can be done anywhere and the product built anywhere, thanks to the Internet and almost instantaneous communications. Corporate greed? Uh, corporations are having a tough time making ANY profit these days. Overpriced labor? Yeah, that's a big factor. Ability to do business globally (as I mentioned above)? Yeah, that's big too. Government regulations & taxes? That's a HUGE disadvantage for a US company but something the politicians won't touch. As Cat Driver mentioned, Cap & Trade is the next big millstone around US manufacturers' necks. Al Gore and his fat cat Wall St Energy Credit traders will be the only ones profiting from that.

Just as an example, on a small scale, our company has to have a "backflow preventer inspection" on our sprinkler system EVERY YEAR at a cost of over $100. Our light bulbs and paint solvents are picked up by a company at a cost of thousands of dollars per quarter. These are just 2 of the SMALL items that US industry must comply with. Think the companies in India and China bear those same costs? Nope.

There is really no way to reverse this unless we have policies that protect our industries like Japan and China have in place. Want to go to China and open a company? Only if you partner with a Chinese national and then they'll let you just so they can steal all your technology and intellectual property. A Chinese company inquired about buying a computerized machine from us but insisted they get the source code. No dice, we said and they didn't buy.

Plus, if we do reverse the trend (with tariffs or import barriers) to put US manufacturing on a level playing field, be prepared to pay more for your tractors and any other stuff you own. And remember, all the hand-wringing about no more US built products was caused by US consumers showing their preferences for CHEAPER foreign made products. If the US had done what was needed to keep the US consumer in their corner (lower labor costs, reduced regulations & taxes resulting in lower prices) we wouldn't be in this position now.

 

[mlauk]

The John Deere 7XXX and 8XXXX series tractors are made in the USA.

 

[soulasphil]

A common misconception that couldn't be further from the truth. The United States is currently the top manufacturing country in the world. China is a close second and will likely pass us in the next few years, but even if they do, the US and China are so far ahead of everyone else the US will not drop out of the top two anytime soon.

I think technically China has been ahead of the US for over 6 months. What is much worse is that from what I saw on my recent visits to America and China, China is still accelerating whereas the US is slowing down. In Shanghai a couple of weeks ago you could see buildings coming up everywhere, apartments, offices, raiway stations, harbour installations. They have a magnificent subway system and very impressive fast trains (400 km/h). I'm not speaking about maglev but about the ordinary high speed trains that are faster, more comfortable and cheaper than their European counterparts. We are being left behind.

 

[Verticaltrx]

The JD 4400 is a Yanmar tractor, made in Japan. I guess everything made overseas isn't great.

Not so, the engine is Yanmar, the rest is Deere and was made in Augusta, GA.

 

[wolc123]

Maybe the mixing of Japanese and American is what causes the trouble. I have a JD 4120 that was assembled in that GA plant but it has the American-made (some say Mexico, but that is still part of North America, hense no matter how you shake it it remains American-made) JD Powertech engine. It has been completely trouble-free over the 5 years I have owned it. Certainly it has some global components including a Canadian (still American) 400X loader. I was quite surprized to be able to purchase this machine (5) years ago for equal or less money than similar but slightly underspec'd models from Kubota or NH (GL4330, T?40). American made, higher performance, equal or less money, and trouble free service was a deal I am thankfull I did not pass up. Maybe it cant be said for all sizes, but anyone would have a tough time convicing me that American's cant build them as well as anyone else in the 40-45 hp range.

 

[Johndeere3720]

Not so, the engine is Yanmar, the rest is Deere and was made in Augusta, GA.

John Deere's new 10 series tractors will have John Deere engines in them. So does that make it an all American SCUT? I hope so. :thumbsup: That makes me think though, how many implement manufacturers are in the USA? I know Koyker is US and i think some of the attachments at Everything Attachments also are US made.

 

[some zilch]

not a tractor, but kobelco excavators are made in georgia. i have picked machines up at the plant 3 times

even cat backhoes have perkins engines, made in england

 

[Botabill]

Ask yourself this question and pretend you own a tractor building company, here are you choices.

1 - Have your product made my a foreign company and pay the employees $2.00 a DAY for 10 hours of work, or..............

2- Have your product made by American Union workers at $750.00 a day plus benefits, taxes, regulation up the wazoo, health and safety, workers comp, labor standards, harassment laws, labor law suits, forced health care, environmental laws and rules, air quality regulation, water regulations,insurance, power regulations, cap and trade, strikes, government inspections, fees, fees, fees, fees, and more fees..............what would you do?

See it's a simple decision isn't it. Now you know why nothing is made in the United States any more.

$750 a day. I'd like to know what union worker gets that kind of pay. You must be talking about management who ships work over seas to maximize profits to pad their pckets or make rich investors richer and undermine our local economies.

 

[k0ua]

- Heck the finest shotguns in the world are made in Italy, our boys over seas carry Berretta pistols and Bennelli shotguns to protect our freedom. Sure would not want one of them to have a jammed gun just because it was made in America!

After a year of flawless production and testing of M9 pistols in Italy under U.S. Government supervision, testing and later production was transferred to the Beretta U.S.A. factory in Accokeek, Maryland.

I believe all M9 pistols that are fielded today by the US Military are US made



I believe Bennelli combat shotguns are made in Italy

But the primary weapon the rifle appears to be made in the USA

As of September of 2010 the Army has announced they will buy 12,000 M4A1s from Colt Firearms by the end of 2010 and will by early 2011 order 25,000 more M4A1s. The Army announced also to have open competition for newly designed M4 bolt carrier and gas piston operation system, which will be fitted to the newly bought M4A1 carbines. the army plans to buy 12,000 of these conversion kits in early 2011. In late 2011 the Army plans to buy 65,000 more conversion kits. From there the Army will decide if it will upgrade all of its M4s.[9]


The ammo is loaded here also, most at Lake city arsenal.

Guys we are not done for yet, if we still have guns and ammo:thumbsup:
lets see Lockheed Martin, McDonald Douglas, Boeing? humm might have a few airplanes and missles too That said I have a Springfield Armory, made in Brazil, and some Austrian tupperware too (Glock) but also have some nice firearms that are designed/manufactured/supported in the good ole USA
James K0UA

 

[Duffster]

The John Deere 7XXX and 8XXXX series tractors are made in the USA.

And 9000 series.

 

[Agrantina]

koua,
don't want to turn this into a gun debate, but M9 was taken over by our american made 1911a which was 100% truely an american made gun The M9 is a foreign design... Now the m4, which I own and love is truely a fine weapon and will be carryed for many years to come. AND is our design and still built here:thumbsup: Simple put- our Military went aboard to find what was best for our boys to have.. That is what I did when bought a tractor.. Shows us that times are changing and the 870 Rem, and the Colt .45 where put to rest by foreign designs:confused2: Just can't see why the Kimber design was less superior to the M9- only in capacity in my mind

AndyG-- Pray for our Boys fighting-- so we can have these forums!!!

 

[clemsonfor]

We are no longer a manufacturing economy, we have evolved past this segment of our history. People want and expect higher wadges than these jobs can pay and still have a competitive product, enter stage right GM. We as consumers could not afforord anything if it was made here. Manufacturing economies is done in developing nations that have yet to build a highly developed service/tecnology economy like ours. Yes you still have to have folks do the dirty work, think garbage other type jobs, but here they pay more than in india or China. Regulation like others have mentionied is the reason why China has a high tech economy and still manufacturing based economy, lighter pollution and labor restrictions, as well as copy right laws that mean nothing there.

Get used to our system its here to stay. I personally could not afford all american made stuff. I would have almost no tools, and just the household things i buy at walmart i could almost have very few of it if i had to only buy american made.

 

[TripleR]

koua,
don't want to turn this into a gun debate, but M9 was taken over by our american made 1911a which was 100% truely an american made gun The M9 is a foreign design... Now the m4, which I own and love is truely a fine weapon and will be carryed for many years to come. AND is our design and still built here:thumbsup: Simple put- our Military went aboard to find what was best for our boys to have.. That is what I did when bought a tractor.. Shows us that times are changing and the 870 Rem, and the Colt .45 where put to rest by foreign designs:confused2: Just can't see why the Kimber design was less superior to the M9- only in capacity in my mind

AndyG-- Pray for our Boys fighting-- so we can have these forums!!!

The SAW is a FN and the main gun on the Abrams is German design.

Some Special Forces units have been required to turn in their preferred HK 416 and the M4 order was made even though the HK416 has proven to be a superior weapon.

I also own a Colt AR variant and like it, but my life doesn't depend on it.

For those interested:Better than M4, but you can’t have one - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times

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