Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced?

   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #191  
Even with just the tires, it should nearly float over soft ground, or on snow, then he has tracks. A lot of utv's seem to have too much ground pressure to follow even an 4 wheel atv on slippery or soft ground, or can't pack enough snow under the tires to drive in a few inches of wet snow without having to spin down though the snow which sometimes is just wet icy mud.... If you just have ungraded atv trails though the woods, like me, I have lots of off camber and soft areas that would give a utility utv troubles, especially with some snow on them...
Our hydro line guys tried to follow my atv trail, with their utv to get around a steep hill on the hydro easement, and they went sideways down the hill into a small tree and ended up cutting it down to get out...
I can see the advantage with snow. Fortunately I rarely get snow where I'm at. In 5 years of owning my SXS it's done what I needed.
 
   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #192  
Price a utilitarian sxs/UTV, it'll be $20k or more. Priced a ClubCar Carryall 1500, it was $20k. Nothing fancy, a work machine. Same thing, a John Deere Gator was $23k. One of the fast, trail-riding machines that have less utility but more speed and off-road capabilities, it'll be $30k and more. This sure seems like a lot of money. But the market has evolved for both types such that there is a LOT of competition, many choices. Do you think these machines are crazy overpriced or 'worth' what they cost. Do you think that there is enough competition that the market has them priced fairly for the quality of the machine, they are built robustly, or do you think all the manufacturers are just greedy and making way too much money? It bugs me to get 'ripped off' but OTOH, am curious if market dynamics always keep prices in check... or not so? Can greed ever manifest itself in a competitive market? Collusion would be hard to accomplish with SO many manufacturers.

I could start a similar thread about pickup trucks. Problem is, seems to me, they are way too dang big these days and there's too much 'stuff' on them. Perhaps they are very well made, lol. I guess I got my money's worth out of my 2008 Nissan Titan, have 250k miles, still going.
Yeah, pricing on these UTVs and side-by-sides has really gone through the roof. I mean, when a basic workhorse like a ClubCar Carryall or a John Deere Gator runs you $20k to $23k, and a sporty trail machine pushes $30k or more, it makes you stop and think. That’s a lot of cash, no matter how you slice it.

There’s definitely a lot of competition in this space now, which usually helps keep prices in check. Tons of brands are out there—Polaris, Can-Am, John Deere, Honda, Yamaha, you name it—so you'd think there'd be enough competition to keep things honest. And, to be fair, these machines are built tough for the most part. They can handle rough terrain, carry heavy loads, and some are even built like tanks. But does that justify the sticker price? That’s the million-dollar question.

It can feel like the manufacturers are cashing in big time, especially when you see the price tags. In theory, a competitive market should balance things out. If one company jacks up their prices too high, another should swoop in with something more affordable to take that market share. But when everyone seems to be in the same ballpark, it makes you wonder. Is it fair pricing for the quality, or are we just paying for the name or some unnecessary extras?

As for whether greed can manifest in a competitive market—absolutely. Even with lots of players, if they all decide to keep their prices high, it could feel like they’re working together, even if they're not technically colluding. Sometimes it seems like the manufacturers know people will pay up, so they keep the prices high across the board.

And yeah, pickup trucks are a whole other ballgame. Trucks these days are getting bigger, fancier, and loaded with tech and features—some useful, some maybe not so much. It's hard to find a good, simple work truck anymore without all the bells and whistles driving up the price. But hey, sounds like you’ve gotten your money’s worth out of that 2008 Titan. 250k miles and still going strong? Now that’s value!

So, are these machines overpriced? Maybe. But are they worth it? That’s up to each of us to decide based on what we need and how much we’re willing to spend.
 
   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #193  
I can see the advantage with snow. Fortunately I rarely get snow where I'm at. In 5 years of owning my SXS it's done what I needed.
When we happen to get an early snow and I didn't yet have pods on, I went out and tried rolling it down. Never do that again!
 
   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #194  
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Got to use this little RTV500 when working on my newest bee yard yesterday. Fun little unit, seemed awfully underpowered going up hills. Like a glorified golf cart. I was hoping for something with a little more punch.
With further research it appears it is only 18hp? Well, that explains a lot. My 325 Polaris is 33hp.
 
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   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #195  
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Got to use this little RTV500 when working on my newest bee yard yesterday. Fun little unit, seemed awfully underpowered going up hills. Like a glorified golf cart. I was hoping for something with a little more punch.
With further research it appears it is only 18hp? Well, that explains a lot. My 325 Polaris is 33hp.
Actually, 15.8 HP, not 18 according to Kubota:

I've not driven one, but have heard they are geared more for work than for speed.
 
   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #196  
   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #197  
I wasn't looking for speed. It was in LOW range and struggling up the driveway. I had doubts it would make it. No way it would pull my trail mower. I'm shocked it's so weak with the displacement it has.
You will likely regret buying it. Little "issues" become bigger "problems" over time.

I would consider contacting the dealer before you put many hours on it and getting something more suitable for your needs.
 
   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #198  
I wasn't looking for speed. It was in LOW range and struggling up the driveway. I had doubts it would make it. No way it would pull my trail mower. I'm shocked it's so weak with the displacement it has.
Wow! I did not realize they were that underpowered. They are supposedly rated to tow 1100#. If it can barely pull itself up a hill, I'm not sure how it would do any significant towing.

I have an antique Coot that was originally powered by a single cylinder 12 HP Tecumseh engine. I've since retrofitted it with a 16 HP Vanguard V-twin. Empty weight is 1000#. With either engine, it would tow 1500# fairly easily in low gear. (Stopping with that kind of load when going down a hill was doable, but challenging.) You won't get anywhere fast in that gear... even in high gear the max is about 18-20 MPH.
 
   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #199  
You will likely regret buying it. Little "issues" become bigger "problems" over time.

I would consider contacting the dealer before you put many hours on it and getting something more suitable for your needs.
We have one owner in the neighborhood I would say us a gentleman farmer with a couple of acres in grapes...

He likes it but with no hills power is not an issue...

Could it be something is off causing low power on yours?

It is also the perfect width for him...
 
   / Are ATVs/UTVs overpriced? #200  
You will likely regret buying it. Little "issues" become bigger "problems" over time.

I would consider contacting the dealer before you put many hours on it and getting something more suitable for your needs.

Luckily, not mine 🤓
 

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