Are all sub compacts essentially equal?

   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #61  
... I guess the 24 is something that just does not exist at least on their web site...

It exists in the "Build My Tractor" section of the NH site (see image below). The press release announcing it was dated late February 2014. Its just their version of the LS J2023H. They do exist. Here's one:
http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=8561119

boomer24.jpg
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #62  
JD650 update....

I found a few salvage yards that had a clutch for the 650....but some wanted north of $1000 for the clutch :eek:

John Deere no longer makes this part for a machine made in 1986....Really ticked me off, as like you would think Deere parts we all thought would be available....nope. I was told to check with Yanmar, then Yanmar told me to get with deere.

I did finally find one at a local salvage yard for only $400...it was a used part....but what are you going to do. I then went back to the dealer to order some parts for the "mule drive" the pully system under the PTO....Bearings belts and such. Finding those parts took the dealership 2 days, the mower deck and mule drive are not listed with the tractor....but they did find them. I have all the new parts installed, 2 drive belts, 1 new idle pully, and a couple bearings that I needed to press in and it all works great. The dealership really came through finding the deck drive parts. So I am belly mowing again, but OMG what a pain.

Moral of the story is Just because it is Green Orange Red or PINK it does not mean it will still be made even 30 years later. The tractors are built to last, but you might be needing a machine shop to keep everything working. The thing that really got me was the finger pointing....talk to Yanmar, but the tractor says John Deere, yea but it is a Yanmar tractor....call Yanmar...No we don't have parts for it, talk to Deere. Then in buying a new machine....this 1 series that is a Deere....but the engine says Yanmar....yea but it is a Deere....funny that is not what your parts guy told me, they told me Yanmar built it and Deere just painted it green and slapped a sticker on it....oh, well it is not that way now.

So I bought a Kubota, they make the engine, and most bits in the machine. I am sure there are sub sources in the machine, but it sure does not have other peoples engine in it.

Now I am not sure if this is right but I found this clutch
http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mYlWu-TIpBkWYUr__CtjoEQ.jpg
http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m4_agCpA7kIEXkIFY8pbP9w.jpg
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m9nNlBezLAhDkIJPqsCKSHQ.jpg
http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mLPI9fVf_UlkH3H-H5OWcJA.jpg

I am sure (if they are right) they are not USA made, do they look right?
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #63  

I am sorry it is the front electric PTO clutch....I should have been more clear.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #66  
I really don't know exactly what you are looking for but I like to play on ebay! :D
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #67  
I can't imagine a side by side HST control. I have been heel toe since the 90s when I used to own and run a couple of Elgin Pelican street sweepers. I will have to check a side by side out...
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #68  
I really don't know exactly what you are looking for but I like to play on ebay! :D

Playing on ebay can be dangerous.....I always find stuff that I want.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #69  
I really don't know exactly what you are looking for but I like to play on ebay! :D

Playing on ebay can be dangerous.....I always find stuff that I want.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal?
  • Thread Starter
#70  
Due to ME I have a very difficult time keeping a heal/toe treadle from getting bumped by my heal/toe in the opposite direction I want to go. The side by side pedals are much friendlier for me.
Best
Chris
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #71  
I can't imagine a side by side HST control. I have been heel toe since the 90s when I used to own and run a couple of Elgin Pelican street sweepers. I will have to check a side by side out...

it is not that big of a deal, It took me a day or two to transition from the treadle pedal to the 2 pedal design. Now it seems natural. Of course I did not like it when I first tried it, but you get used to things pretty quick, and now it seems great! You just leave your heel on the floor and your toes rotate either left or right to engage which pedal you want to push. Once your ankle gets "educated" it happens automatically without any thought. They are both good.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #73  
it is not that big of a deal, It took me a day or two to transition from the treadle pedal to the 2 pedal design. Now it seems natural. Of course I did not like it when I first tried it, but you get used to things pretty quick, and now it seems great! You just leave your heel on the floor and your toes rotate either left or right to engage which pedal you want to push. Once your ankle gets "educated" it happens automatically without any thought. They are both good.

Only treadle pedal design I drove was on an fork truck and due to the nature of the operation (constantly stopping, starting, reversing) it was a good system...but on a tractor you rarely need the immediate switch between forward and reverse and my preference is the two pedal layout.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal?
  • Thread Starter
#75  
I am leaning towards the Mahindra 28XL hydro with loader backhoe box scrapper. The Branson and TYM come up next. Johyn Deere and Kubota are nice but for allot more money.
Best
Chris
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #76  
I am leaning towards the Mahindra 28XL hydro with loader backhoe box scrapper. The Branson and TYM come up next. Johyn Deere and Kubota are nice but for allot more money.
Best
Chris

The 28XL would be a very good choice.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #77  
Simply untrue. Posting information like this, when you've never seen the machines in question, and haven't even taken a minute to check the stats on them does a disservice to people looking for help. You saw a Boomer 30 at a show, but that's a much bigger machine....like 1,200lbs heavier and over a foot longer.

The Boomer 20, 24 and 25 are virtually identical in size to the Deere 1025R, and several others that you suggest are "real" sub-compacts.

I saw a Boomer 25 last week at a dealer. It is defiantly larger than a SCUT.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #78  
I saw a Boomer 25 last week at a dealer. It is defiantly larger than a SCUT.

Defiantly? Was it shaking its fist at other tractors or something? :confused:

If the Boomer 25 is larger than a SCUT, then so is a 1025R, by your definition.

Opinions don't change specs, and math isn't negotiable.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #79  
Defiantly? Was it shaking its fist at other tractors or something? :confused:

If the Boomer 25 is larger than a SCUT, then so is a 1025R, by your definition.

Opinions don't change specs, and math isn't negotiable.

I think you know that was a typo.

Have you ever seen a Boomer 25? Have you ever seen a Kubota BX or JD 1 series?
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #80  
I think you know that was a typo.

Have you ever seen a Boomer 25? Have you ever seen a Kubota BX or JD 1 series?

Really, it was a lot more fun imagining a Boomer 25 on the top of a mountain shaking it's fist/FEL at all the other tractors saying "I am larger than a SCUT."

I've seen the LS version of the Boomer 25, and yes, I've seen both of the other two. I know this is a dead horse you like to beat about the larger SCUTs, but it's nothing more than your opinion. I don't think anything that's well under 2,000lbs is a CUT, but that's just my opinion.

A Boomer 25 and Deere 1025R are within an inch of being the same length, and I don't trust the shipping weight specs because they don't specify whether they are with, or without tires, and we know a lot of tractors get shipped without tires (since the 1025R was made by in Japan and shipped here).

Further, a 1025R is a full 8" longer than a BX2370, but the Almighty Deere says it's still a SCUT, so who am I to argue?

A fraction of an inch doesn't suddenly make a tractor jump to another category when there are no officially recognized distinctions between the size groups.
 

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