Apple computers

[dragoneggs]

Don't get me wrong. I like my iPhone. I like my iPad. They are super easy to use. But I have had just as many hardware issues with Apple products as I have with other products. 30 years in I.T. The percentage of hardware related issues were the same as PCs. And Apples are more expensive to repair if out of warranty. Our content production departments used to be all Mac based for probably 15 years. They switched to PCs due to costs and compatibility issues with software used in the industry.

Surely has not been my or my families and friends experiences with Mac... at least going back about 12 or more years when I converted. I have a work laptop (windows based) and it constantly requires our IT department to fiddle with. I use my Mac with Parallels (guessing very similar to VMware) and it is faster running, quicker boot up and rarely crashes. I use my Mac for work when I can get away with it, but we have certain security protocols that force me to use the company machine for certain tasks. Funny how all that security add on crap seems to be just a job creator for IT. Never need IT to work on my Mac.

For me it is wonderful to have my phone, laptop, iPad, and now watch all seamlessly in-sync. Too bad my company is stuck on windows even though the owners personally use Macs as well. Oh and Macs in my experience and usage last as least twice as long. I am on my 2nd MacBook Pro and in that time I am on my fifth cheap windows machine. In my mind the cost after factoring in the hassle of changing machines leans me easily to Apple.

 

[MossRoad]

Surely has not been my or my families and friends experiences with Mac... at least going back about 12 or more years when I converted. I have a work laptop (windows based) and it constantly requires our IT department to fiddle with. I use my Mac with Parallels (guessing very similar to VMware) and it is faster running, quicker boot up and rarely crashes. I use my Mac for work when I can get away with it, but we have certain security protocols that force me to use the company machine for certain tasks. Funny how all that security add on crap seems to be just a job creator for IT. Never need IT to work on my Mac.

For me it is wonderful to have my phone, laptop, iPad, and now watch all seamlessly in-sync. Too bad my company is stuck on windows even though the owners personally use Macs as well. Oh and Macs in my experience and usage last as least twice as long. I am on my 2nd MacBook Pro and in that time I am on my fifth cheap windows machine. In my mind the cost after factoring in the hassle of changing machines leans me easily to Apple.

Windows OS for desktops/laptops is a most un-elegant brutish piece of crap. So don't think that I like Windows. I don't.

Keywords above are "cheap windows machine". Buy quality computer and it'll last. By cheap computer, and it'll break. That's where Apple has an advantage... they don't let their OS run on cheap hardware, while Microsoft will let anyone run their OS on any piece of junk that pays.

At my old job, I was responsible for hardware, software, and OS for about 50 servers, 500 PCs, and about 50 Macs. We bought quality hardware (DEC, then HP and Dell) for the servers and PCs and like I said, hardware failure rates (hard drives, peripherals, monitors, optical drives, motherboards, power supplies, etc...) were similar between the Apple and our other equipment. Repairs on Apple hardware are exorbitant compared to PC repairs.

 

[aczlan]

Windows OS for desktops/laptops is a most un-elegant brutish piece of crap. So don't think that I like Windows. I don't.

Keywords above are "cheap windows machine". Buy quality computer and it'll last. By cheap computer, and it'll break. That's where Apple has an advantage... they don't let their OS run on cheap hardware, while Microsoft will let anyone run their OS on any piece of junk that pays.

At my old job, I was responsible for hardware, software, and OS for about 50 servers, 500 PCs, and about 50 Macs. We bought quality hardware (DEC, then HP and Dell) for the servers and PCs and like I said, hardware failure rates (hard drives, peripherals, monitors, optical drives, motherboards, power supplies, etc...) were similar between the Apple and our other equipment. Repairs on Apple hardware are exorbitant compared to PC repairs.

My current laptop at home is a 2009 Dell Studio, on its second hard drive but otherwise still going strong.
At work I have a 2014 Latitude that is also still going strong. When it was purchased oh, we added a SSD for the boot drive and extra ram to bump it up to 8GB and it's been a good machine.
For most people, if they're looking for a laptop I would suggest a off lease Dell or possibly HP for $250-400 rather than a new "cheap" laptop from Walmart or wherever else.


Aaron Z

 

[MossRoad]

My current laptop at home is a 2009 Dell Studio, on its second hard drive but otherwise still going strong.
At work I have a 2014 Latitude that is also still going strong. When it was purchased oh, we added a SSD for the boot drive and extra ram to bump it up to 8GB and it's been a good machine.
For most people, if they're looking for a laptop I would suggest a off lease Dell or possibly HP for $250-400 rather than a new "cheap" laptop from Walmart or wherever else.


Aaron Z

When I buy a PC for myself, kids, or friends, I buy off-lease HP machines from Tiger Direct.

 

[MossRoad]

I'm currently running an HP 3200 that I bought off-lease 6-7 years ago. I5 processor, 8G ram, 1TbHD, DVD writer, 8 USB ports, 1 display port, Windows 7 Pro.

Total cost back then? $250 :laughing:

 

[dragoneggs]

I'm listening Moss and yield to your experience. I haven't been close to a decent sized IT department and witnessed issues of Macs operated in mass quantities in a server environment, but for the normal home user without a lot of troubleshooting skills, it is a no brainer to me.

 

[MossRoad]

I'm listening Moss and yield to your experience. I haven't been close to a decent sized IT department and witnessed issues of Macs operated in mass quantities in a server environment, but for the normal home user without a lot of troubleshooting skills, it is a no brainer to me.

I agree. I really like the ease of use of Apple products.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I was really frustrated changing from Android to iPhone, but like it now, except for how I have to pull pictures off to my computer. I won’t use their cloud stuff that they try to force you to pay extra for.

 

[Grumpycat]

I was really frustrated changing from Android to iPhone, but like it now, except for how I have to pull pictures off to my computer. I won’t use their cloud stuff that they try to force you to pay extra for.

5GB of iCloud is free. Let the iPhone magically put photos on iCloud mirrored to your computer then archive and delete from iCloud. You will always have the most recent, or most interesting, 5GB shared among your devices.

iCloud storage plans and pricing - Apple Support

 

[buckeyefarmer]

No magic involved. But a lot of bandwidth required. They store the high resolution pics on their servers, and put lower resolution on your devices.
Not interested in their 1 way approach.
I found a way to make it work for how I want my pictures saved, and I have no other apple products. I do store some on my google drive.