Another Liberty chipper saga

/ Another Liberty chipper saga #1  

whiskywizard

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Location
Southern Ontario, on Lake Ontario
Tractor
KIOTI CK20S HST
I read all the issues here, and elsewhere with Liberty Chippers. Some had good stories to tell, most had trouble. Most stories were at least several years old. So I called Liberty and had a frank discussion with a sales rep. He allayed my concerns and I ordered.

The promised delivery passed by. No word. I called. Rep didn't know. Call "shipping Dept in a few hours". I called again - they would call back. No reply. I emailed the original salesman - he promised to talk to Shipping. A day later, Shipping manager called. My unit had missed the shipment out - would be 2 more weeks.

2 more weeks go by - nothing. I called/emailed/waited. Talked to the general manager. He said he'd get back to me. A day later he offers to upsize the model for $300 more, and ship it that day. I said NO THANKS. he'll get back to me. A couple of days later I'm given a new shipment date, more than a month out!

By this point, it's clear I'm neck-deep in the same crap that previous buyers had warned me about. I called and emailed to cancel the order. The general manager gets on me again about the bigger model. I said my tractor wouldn't handle it. Next, he wants details on my tractor! I insisted on the refund.

2 more days go by - no refund. So I call AmEx (the card I paid with) and they gave me an inside number to call. I got through and asked for a refund. In 5 days, I had my money back.

To prove I am capable of learning a lesson, I then dropped by my local tractor guy and ordered a Wallenstein BXM32. Made right here in Ontario. It arrived in 2 weeks, painted orange to match my tractor! It worked perfectly the first time I ran it, and has continued to operate perfectly for about 6h of use now. It's so much fun to use I'm thinking about cutting down the neighbour's trees and chipping them up. :laughing:

It was more money than the Liberty unit, but ...
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #3  
Just bought a bmx-42 expensive but really built. have fun, cut the neighbors tree.
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #4  
I had a bmx42 and loved it. There are a lot of happy Liberty owners too but I would buy a Wallenstien first.
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #5  
I'm amazed that liberty stays in business. I have not heard of ONE success story.


Wedge
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #6  
I called Liberty and had a frank discussion with a sales rep. He allayed my concerns and I ordered.

Of course he did, he wanted to sell you something. Remember, if a salesmans lips are moving, they are lying.
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #7  
Do they have a physical address? If so I would be curious to look on Google maps and see what they operate out of. It almost sounds like a home business that orders them from China and if they don't have the model you want in stock then they have to wait for a new shipment. If there's not enough in the shipment that arrives then someone get's the run around or an offer to upsize to a model they have in stock.
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #8  
Do they have a physical address? If so I would be curious to look on Google maps and see what they operate out of. It almost sounds like a home business that orders them from China and if they don't have the model you want in stock then they have to wait for a new shipment. If there's not enough in the shipment that arrives then someone get's the run around or an offer to upsize to a model they have in stock.
2340 W Broadway Ste. 103 Mesa, AZ 85202


It appears to be a warehouse(can't be sure though).
Bing lists 3 other businesses in the same building.
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #9  
2340 W Broadway Ste. 103 Mesa, AZ 85202


It appears to be a warehouse(can't be sure though).
Bing lists 3 other businesses in the same building.

So it sounds like they are several businesses in one. My guess is they buying in bulk from China and selling them here. I see a number of people doing it on ebay. I would guess something like a chipper though isn't going to be a fast mover so they probably only keep one, if any in stock. It's probably not their main business so when things don't go right they don't put much effort into making it right.
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #10  
So it sounds like they are several businesses in one. My guess is they buying in bulk from China and selling them here. I see a number of people doing it on ebay. I would guess something like a chipper though isn't going to be a fast mover so they probably only keep one, if any in stock. It's probably not their main business so when things don't go right they don't put much effort into making it right.

Judging by other 'reviews' here on TBN........ I think you are giving them waaaay too much credit.
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #11  
The money you think you are saving on Chinese junk will bite you in the Butt in the long run. Always breaking down. no resale. More dangerous to operate [Usually} You be the judge. Just my opinion...I had a chinese tractor and could have cut more grass with a push mower with all the down time due to problems.......
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #12  
Judging by other 'reviews' here on TBN........ I think you are giving them waaaay too much credit.

I can't see them making much money on chippers, the market can't be that big. So assuming, yes that's a big assumption, that they actually earn a living it must be one of the other businesses that makes money.
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #13  
Since they always charge a customers credit card up front...... it sounds like it takes them months to fill the minimum order. I would guess they have zero of anything in stock.
 
/ Another Liberty chipper saga #14  
Since they always charge a customers credit card up front...... it sounds like it takes them months to fill the minimum order. I would guess they have zero of anything in stock.

A reputable business would never charge a customer's credit card until the day the product actually ships. Sounds like these guys are cash poor and financing their business by pre-charging customers credit cards. The day they go out of business any pre-paid and non shipped orders may not be refunded by the credit card companies.

I would never knowingly deal with a business who charges on the day the order is placed if I was told the item was not in-stock.
 
 

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