Amish accident

[plowindeeper]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=wtva%20amish&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wtva.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fstory%2FMHP-investigates-two-people-injured-in-Amish%2FCk4or1UmYEuVMB5y3ozwmw.cspx&ei=-GQIUsP2IsqMyQHvjYHoBA&usg=AFQjCNH4W2-g_LLtYjSy1NRg1dpY8zBQ8Q[

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=pontotoc%20amish%20wrecks&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpontotoc-progress.com%2F2013%2F05%2F28%2Famish-injured-in-an-auto-accident-tuesday-morning%2F&ei=Z2oIUs_SCeyFyQHEkIGIAg&usg=AFQjCNH49hkK-JBflCA2bvB5qKPnL-BoWw
I know a lot of people on here live among the amish. We've had several bad wreaks here in the last several years.

 

[schmism]

whats the avg working horse for amish worth? does the insurance company write them a check? or do they demand that the insurance company deliver same age/***/type of horse as replacement....

 

[flyingcow]

Getting a pretty good population of them up here too. Been a few close calls.

 

[Bill 55]

I don't believe the Amish believe in insurance

 

[Wagtail]

whats the avg working horse for amish worth? does the insurance company write them a check? or do they demand that the insurance company deliver same age/***/type of horse as replacement....

It's sad that I laughed at that last bit... especially as the insurance companys are advertising 'new for old'. So if they delivered a new foal, it'd be a couple of years before it would even start pulling a buggy.

My immediate family lived in Kitchener, Ontario, until recently. BIG Mennonite country and the buggies were/are a common sight everywhere. I don't recall there ever being an accident recorded in all the years they lived there.

 

[Ed of all trades]

I will be praying for both of the people involved.

 

[CliffordK]

It would seem as if the car ran into the buggy, and not the buggy running into the car.

Liability would fall on the car driver. Even if the horses are raised in the Amish community, and the buggies are built and repaired in the community, no doubt they can come up with an insurance value, and likely less than the value of the other car involved in the crashes.

Are those two different incidents with the same buggy driver? I hope he is ok.

 

[rockinmywaypa]

I live close to a large community of them too and they piss me off. They are always out after dark or before daylight without a single piece of lighting on their slow moving buggies and wagons. All they have to do is get off their bible thumping principles and put on some glow in the dark tape or proper lights to let people in cars going the speed limit know that they are in the middle of the lane. So many needless deaths of young people and everybody simpathises with the ones that cause the accidents. Btw I don't believe it can be called an accident when somebody does something deliberate to cause it.

 

[dodge man]

I also live near some Amish, and they are actually pretty good about having lighting on after dark. I've noticed a car battery that powers the lights. We also had an accident near us, a younger girl was driving the buggy and it got away from her at a corner and a car hit it. I think only the horse was hurt.

 

[Oliver1655]

Correct, the Amish do not believe in insurance. Around me the buggies are normally good about using the lights on their buggies. Actually better than a lot of the cars & trucks! However, those who are riding the horses, well that is a different story.

 

[RoyJackson]

I also live near some Amish, and they are actually pretty good about having lighting on after dark. I've noticed a car battery that powers the lights. We also had an accident near us, a younger girl was driving the buggy and it got away from her at a corner and a car hit it. I think only the horse was hurt.

In PA, it was mandated that the buggies had to have lighting of some sort. The Amish were against that, but they do following the law. All buggies are required to have SMV reflectors as well.
There were a number of buggy/car accidents when we lived in PA. This was partly due to the number of blind corners and hills in south central PA...mostly due to car drivers not paying attention to their driving in rural areas.

 

[IkeRoberts]

I just reread the reports and one accident happened at 8:39AM and the other at 3:30PM. Both are broad daylight accidents. No need to have your lights on then, just pay attention.

 

[RoyJackson]

I live close to a large community of them too and they piss me off. They are always out after dark or before daylight without a single piece of lighting on their slow moving buggies and wagons. All they have to do is get off their bible thumping principles and put on some glow in the dark tape or proper lights to let people in cars going the speed limit know that they are in the middle of the lane. So many needless deaths of young people and everybody simpathises with the ones that cause the accidents. Btw I don't believe it can be called an accident when somebody does something deliberate to cause it.

I think you need to move back to the city or suburbs...

 

[rrrkkk]

Before I retired as an insurance adjuster, the couple of accidents I handled one with a broken arm and one broken leg. Neither one of them wanted any $$$ from the insurance co. They said it was an act of god, and it wouldn't be right to accept anything.

 

[kevin37b]

I don't believe in it either , but that is where the money is . There is no respect anymore .

 

[CliffordK]

The two accidents above were at around 3:30 pm, and 8:26 am, I think. I don't know if there was fog, or other adverse conditions, but it should have been daylight.

None of the deer around here have flashing lights, or reflective tape on them. A person needs to drive considering road conditions and potential hazards.

Nonetheless, I would agree that one should exercise prudence in adding lighting, slow moving triangles, reflective tape, and etc to the carriages. Something other than black paint?

The Amish aren't Indians. I don't see why the local government can't legislate proper lighting requirements. Then put some police out and start ticketing, and/or impounding vehicles with improper lighting and marking. Looking at the Web for "Amish Buggy", at least half of the photos show what appear to be lights, and sometimes other markers.

I would think the governments could invest more in making adequate shoulders on the road, but I can't imagine any "God" demanding that one maneuver a black painted buggy at night on a busy road with no lights. And if they don't like electricity, there is always kerosene or carbide. But, the new bicycle generators are pretty spectacular too.

 

[nybirdman]

We deal with them every day around here Northern NY.Average about one accident every four months.
Ours are the Old Order Amish...only light is a small red kerosene lantern,totaly black buggy.No SMV signs,they refuse to use them.

 

[plowindeeper]

We deal with them every day around here Northern NY.Average about one accident every four months.
Ours are the Old Order Amish...only light is a small red kerosene lantern,totaly black buggy.No SMV signs,they refuse to use them.

No lights, SMV or lantern here. They are on the road early in the morning before the sun comes up and after dark. This is last two major accidents. We average one every other month. I have never heard of them having a accident in the dark though always in daylight hours on state highways.

 

[Larro Darro]

I was taught in driver's ed that you don't overdrive your line of sight, be it daylight or dark. Here in Calhoun County Florida, we don't have any Amish, but we do have a lot of their Mennonite cousins. They lead a simple life, but do use cars, trucks and tractors.