Alternative Power in PT1430

[BWSwamper]

I saw a listing for a PT1430 online. The photo shows a water cooled Lister-Petter 3 cylinder diesel installed. I thought all of this model had the 2-cylinder Deutz until the recent switch to a gas motor on that model due to emissions restrictions making the F2L Deutz unavailable.


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[Goose1776]

Possibly someone repowered it?
I know I seen on YouTube, a couple people replacing engines in them.

 

[m5040]

Call Terry and ask him. The very early ones had Kubota diesels. I think those tractors are longer to make room for the extra cylinders and radiator etc.

 

[MossRoad]

I wonder what year it is?

 

[BWSwamper]

https://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/203918329/power-trac-p

 

[ponytug]

Fun! Original or not, it looks like a nice job. It has the old 3Pt pin attachment.

I have a soft spot for old lister diesels. That looks much newer than the ones I know, but still older.

All the best,

Peter

 

[cqaigy2]

Those big old low rpm Listers are pretty cool.

 

[mcbike]

BW,

I started looking for a PT a few weeks ago and came across the same one you started this post with. Did you look at the unit, or does the age and uniqueness of it scare you away?

I'm interested, apparently it only has around 600 hrs.

Thanks,

 

[BWSwamper]

BW,

I started looking for a PT a few weeks ago and came across the same one you started this post with. Did you look at the unit, or does the age and uniqueness of it scare you away?

I'm interested, apparently it only has around 600 hrs.

Thanks,

I'm not really in the market right now. I have a PT1850. If I were looking for that model, I might check it out.

 

[ponytug]

BW,

I started looking for a PT a few weeks ago and came across the same one you started this post with. Did you look at the unit, or does the age and uniqueness of it scare you away?

I'm interested, apparently it only has around 600 hrs.

Thanks,

I think it would depend on what you want it for. If you need a small loader, you are probably ok. If you need other implements, like a mower, I would think that you need to be pretty good at welding and metal fabrication, or know someone who is, as you are probably going to be building your own implements.

You would be buying an old tractor from a small manufacturer, who probably doesn't have many parts for that model any more. If you are a handy sort of person, these are very simple machines, and most items are readily available, if you can figure out what you are looking at. I know nothing about parts availability for that Lister engine.

I would dicker a bit on the price for all of the above reasons, plus the fact that it is still for sale.

FWIW: that engine looks like to me like a Lister Petter LPW3, which has closer to 28 or 29HP, which would fit with the 1430 label, rather than the 38HP in the listing.

All the best,

Peter

 

[mcbike]

Thanks for the info. My needs are mowing and loading, not much else in the near future. I have done some welding but am not a fabricator, more of a patch it back together guy.

This might not be the item for me given the older connection point.

 

[ponytug]

If all you need is a mower, then getting a matching width brush hog, and putting a hydraulic motor on it (if it doesn't already have one) with an attachment setup to match should be something a local welder could do for you, and then your are done. It isn't a big job. Power-Trac could tell you what the flow is on the PTO. (Have you called them to talk about this one? They (Terry) may have some insights.)

All the best,

Peter

 

[mcbike]

I contacted PT today and the tractor is a 1996 and they will be getting me more info on the engine and hydraulics. Apparently the older connection limitation is there is no auxiliary hydraulics so a grapple is not an option down the road. I'm getting more interested in this one, but I worry that I'm mostly interested because of the price point. The pics don't show much wear and tear on the bucket and the tires look pretty new but that's only the view from the internet.

 

[ponytug]

That's wonderful that you have data from PT.

Funny, it looked to me as if there is an auxiliary hydraulic lever under the dash (left of the joystick). Again, that is a straightforward add, if you want to.

Have you driven it yet?

All the best,

Peter

 

[mcbike]

I haven't been out to look at or operate it. It is a little bit of drive (6+ hours) so I'm getting my ducks in a row before I decide if I want to take a trip. Thanks for your insights!

 

[ponytug]

I take it back, no auxiliary; that must be the PTO on/off under the dash. There is something going on with the hydraulic cooler fan wiring, but it may just be loose.

I think that this wasn't used much for loading because the leading edge of the bucket is not worn. There does seem to be a bit of oily trash on the floor around the motor, but that may not mean anything, or it may mean that there is an oil leak in the engine and or pumps.

It must have been stored under cover as the stickers haven't faded much at all.

All the best,

Peter

 

[mcbike]

I spoke with Terry in Tazwell today about the 1430. He considers the engine to be one of the better ones. The hydraulics are 12 gpm @ 2500 PSI.

He wasn't sure if it had auxiliary hydraulics, but mentioned they did make a few with the old 3 pt connection that had it. His recommendation was to continue to use the 3 pt connection as is by adding loops to any implements. He did not recommend trying to add auxiliary hydraulics because of the plumbing required.

He said that if you can live with the limitations it should be a good unit.