Alien Invasion - I want my pond back !

   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #241  
Not to mention one they get in the are mean blood suckers who propagate and only destroy everything around them and cause it all to twist in wind taking every bit of breath freedom and life away from everything around it... These things can't be stopped it seem no matter how much voting is done as these same bureaucrats get the " illegal," 'dead" and "cartoon characters" to vote for them somehow...

M

Oooooohhhh...somebody got a Melvin wedgie and it affected his lifelong attitude and confused his sentences. Or, was it an Atomic or Hanging wedgie, considering the fixation on twisting, wind and breath? Wedgie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #242  
If the bureacratic remoras don't find anything wrong, they can't substantiate their existence.

Here in Austin, they blocked development for years for a "cave beetle". IMO, a bit of common sense should prevail.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #243  
Oooooohhhh...somebody got a Melvin wedgie and it affected his lifelong attitude and confused his sentences. Or, was it an Atomic or Hanging wedgie, considering the fixation on twisting, wind and breath? Wedgie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

guess you never been around a bureaucrat much... dont worry they are all moving towards Texas ASAP...
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #244  
guess you never been around a bureaucrat much... dont worry they are all moving towards Texas ASAP...

They are already here in Travis and Williamson counties. Greater Austin area.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #245  
If we're careful, continued commentary can go unchecked until this perfectly crafted thread gets shut down.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back !
  • Thread Starter
#246  
Any Fish In There ?

Many a time a car has stopped by the roadside and the driver asked "Any fish in there ?".
Fishing is still a popular pastime in the the UK, though the type of fish that people want to catch has changed since I was a boy. Nowadays most are only interested in catching the biggest fish. Inland that is almost invariably carp. In some places the same fish is caught repeatedly and the fishermen even give them names. If that's what floats your boat then fair enough, but it doesn't appeal to me at all.

As a boy, the rivers by my home in Sheffield were heavily polluted, mostly from the steel industry. That left us with the choice of either fishing in a still water or not fishing at all. Not even in my wildest dreams did I ever think I would have a potential fishery on my own doorstep. I now have a grandson coming up to 5 years old. Not sure if fishing will excite him, but I will do my best to find out in the next few years.

To me the ideal farm pond should have lots of small fish for children to catch.


Either silver sided Roach roach.jpg or the slightly more golden Rudd rudd.jpg ,
with a few larger green flanked Tench to stir the bottom and send a steady fizz of bubbles to the surface tench.jpg,
plus a few predator fish, my favourite being the stripy Perch (which also tastes very good). perch.jpg


Eventually fish find their own way into ponds naturally by eggs sticking to the legs of wildfowl, or so I am told. I somehow doubted that this had yet happened to my pond as I had not seen any signs, but you never know, so when September 2014 arrived and my European assisted restoration agreement was about to end, I was determined to find out. If no fish were present I would introduce some stock over the coming winter.

So out came my fishing tackle to see what, if anything, was in there. There is one universal bait that appeals to virtually all fish in this country - the maggot.
hooking_a_single_maggot.png

Most fishing tackle shops in England sell maggots by the pint. Alternatively, with a few days to spare and the wind in the right direction (away from other people), it is easy to collect your own, though I won't go into details as for some reason many people are repulsed by maggots. When we were kids we held maggot races when we weren't fishing with them. Another maggot game was for each of us to count out half a dozen into the palms of our hands and then each make a fist. The winner is the one who is last to have one wriggle it's way out. Ok, that's gross if you haven't done anything like that as a child, but if you have you will know they don't harm you at all, they only tickle as they make their escape.

Willows had grown up and out 12 feet or more in the years since I planted them in the bank. I settled down to fish in the shade of one of these. In fact it was about the only piece of open water, as there was a lot of weed on the surface which I planned to skim off at the end of the month when the agreement finished. I had been baiting this spot each evening for the previous 2 days, so if anything was in there, there was a good chance of a quick catch.

Modern fishing floats are made out of all sorts of synthetic materials. When I was younger they tended to be either cane and balsa wood constructions, or simple porcupine quills tipped with white and fluorescent orange paint. Whatever they are made from, I never cease to be thrilled at the prospect of it suddenly moving or ducking below the surface. Like many things with wildlife, you never know when it will happen, if it happens at all. I don't understand why it is but I am sure it is this unpredictability that is the key to the excitement.

My little float refused to bob or dip. Not a single bite.
Well, it had been good to sit on the bankside in anticipation, only I would have to wait until it was stocked and try again another year.




There is a lot to do from dawn till dusk over the next couple of days so I doubt if I will have time to post anything for a short while. When I do, it will be time to meet the ...

alien.png Aliens !
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #247  
AMEN! This is the best thread I've read/followed in quite some time.

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yep i keep checking this thread several time a week now!!!!:thumbsup:
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #248  
AMEN! This is the best thread I've read/followed in quite some time.

Sent from my iPhone using TractorByNet

I keep checking this thread several times a week now!:thumbsup:

Edit: I got an error the first time i posted so i retyped a response to only see that my first reply was accepted??? How many years has it been since the software swap? like 4...and were still getting strange things like this and double posts?
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #249  
agreement ending in 2014? so did you agree to something with the burocrat?
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #250  
agreement ending in 2014? so did you agree to something with the burocrat?

By 2004 I had learned that this pond and a few others in this area were home to water voles.

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These little creatures are now quite rare here, mainly due to the fact that mink find them extremely tasty. Mink have no natural predators here and got into the wild after being released from mink farms. With few rivers in this area, this has become one of their last strongholds while many dedicated people try to trap and remove the mink from other parts.

Anyone who has read or seen "Wind in the willows" will be familiar with "Ratty", who wasn't really a rat but a water vole.

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This has given water voles a high public profile and helped make the pond eligible for restoration under a European environmental scheme. The scheme would pay half the money towards hiring machinery to dredge the pond. Sounded too good to miss, all I had to do to qualify was to carry out the work by 2006 and then leave the pond in it's "natural" state for 10 years from the date of signing, which would take me to 2014.

So I signed up and then ignored the summer-stinky pond for another couple of years.
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   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #251  
Just thought I'd share a little TBN feature I've found very useful, though most of you TBN old timers probably know more about it than I do.

At the top of every forum page like this one, you'll find a MY HOME gear shaped button. Clicking on it will take you to another page where you can adjust your TBN settings, but most of the page is filled with a list of threads to which you have subscribed. You subscribe to a thread when you post to it, either by starting it to begin with or by replying. You can also select "Subscribe to this thread" under the Thread Tools menu at the top of each forum page.

The default list shows only threads that have entries you have not seen yet, and this makes it very easy to catch up on what you haven't read. There's a View All Subscribed Threads button at the bottom right of the list if you want to see all of the threads that you've responded to or started.

If you no longer wish to follow a particular thread, there's an Unsubscribe link under each one in the list.

Hope this helps... :laughing:
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #252  
Redneck, you have well described the best way to view TBN...and, for me, the only way I use. Great to point it out...thought everybody did this.

And, now we are getting a lesson in fishing, UK style...very interesting!! I, too, have heard about the fish eggs on waterfowl and have never found it to be true, either. However, there are things which somehow seem to find their way to water.

Here in Texas we have had 5 years of extreme drought, my several stock tanks went completely dry...I mean, drive the tractor in the bottom and dig silt out with the FEL, DRY. This spring, we had good rains and my tanks filled up...from somewhere, the following critters have showed up...nearest water before latest rains is over a mile away.
red ear turtles
soft shell turtles
snapping turtles
three types of frogs, including bull frogs
all sorts of water bugs and water spiders
cottonmouth water moccasin snake, other water snakes

I have stocked three kinds of fish, catfish, bluegill, hog nose minnows...hoping for fun with grandkids next year.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #253  
Redneck, you have well described the best way to view TBN...and, for me, the only way I use. Great to point it out...thought everybody did this. And, now we are getting a lesson in fishing, UK style...very interesting!! I, too, have heard about the fish eggs on waterfowl and have never found it to be true, either. However, there are things which somehow seem to find their way to water. Here in Texas we have had 5 years of extreme drought, my several stock tanks went completely dry...I mean, drive the tractor in the bottom and dig silt out with the FEL, DRY. This spring, we had good rains and my tanks filled up...from somewhere, the following critters have showed up...nearest water before latest rains is over a mile away. red ear turtles soft shell turtles snapping turtles three types of frogs, including bull frogs all sorts of water bugs and water spiders cottonmouth water moccasin snake, other water snakes I have stocked three kinds of fish, catfish, bluegill, hog nose minnows...hoping for fun with grandkids next year.

Nothing says fun like Snakes and Snappin Turtles... Lol

Just made me laugh reading your post.

The kids will have a great time fishing I'm sure but the other critters would keep me on edge.

Chris
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back !
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#254  
Alien Invasion

Time to clear up that pond a little and then see about ordering some fish. With chest waders and a rake I set off to clear the pond surface, starting at the opposite end to where I had tried to fish.
Instead of stooping from the bankside I thought it would be easier on my back to just wade straight in and flick the weed out. Using the rake as a walking stick I carefully stepped off the edge of the bank into the pond. It was much shallower than I had expected. Another step further and I still wasn't going much deeper. The weed that was previously floating on the surface sank beneath my feet and I had the strange sensation of standing on what felt like a submerged piece of carpet. This wouldn't be the first time someone had parked by the roadside and thrown rubbish into the pond.

I tried another place a few yards further along the bank and it was just the same, except this time I got one foot tangled beneath the surface. Then came the sick feeling in my stomach. I wasn't feeling queasy from my unsteady position, it was the realisation of what was going on. How stupid do you have to be to not realise that the pond you once worked so hard to restore has, over a period of years, gradually been taken over ? That's where I fit on the scale of stupidity.:duh:

The weed I could see floating was nothing in comparison to what was going on under the surface. I had been invaded and this was an invasion of iceberg proportions. The pond had been engulfed by aliens and I was standing on them. :eek: An alien plant from the other side of the world.


The innocent looking water plant is called Crassula helmsii to those with a liking for Latin names, everyone else calls it Australian stonecrop or New Zealand pigmy weed.

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Crassula was brought into this country many years ago as an "oxygenating plant" for aquariums. Someone must have thought they would then try it in an outside pool, from where it has managed to hitch a ride with waterfowl and spread out into the countryside. Nothing here has yet developed an appetite for it. Unlike other plants, it can continue to grow throughout the winter, eventually crowding out all other life. It was banned from sale in April 2014 - too late for me.


That first day I tried dragging it out with the rake. Apart from small pieces I made no virtually no impression. This was incredible, as Coots had been happily swimming through the Crassula, making it look as if it could be easily parted. Not so, all those little shoots intertwine beneath the surface.

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Individually each shoot is weak, but once they have woven themselves together, it is the underwater equivalent of a Kevlar vest.



Raking would do nothing, so I admitted defeat for the day and retreated to consider my options, then come back better equipped to do battle.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #256  
Reminds me of the infamous Kudzu vine we have here, imported from Asia IIRC. Some locals have reported you can see it grow inches per day.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #258  
Wow.

I just found this, figured when I saw the may start date it would be over. Nope, just got to the topic issue.

I've seen the stuff, it's a real pain. I'd suggest chemical warfare.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #259  
"everyone else calls it Australian stonecrop"

It wasn't ME! I haven't been to the UK since '91 at the Racal College in Heckfield (yes, that's it's actual name), between Reading & Bassingstoke.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #260  
It wasn't me who brought it over, I was last in the UK in 2010 and I never went any where Shropshire.
 

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