Air in loader system

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Case IH Farmall 55C Series II
On my Case ih compact tractor I seem to have gotten air into the loader and bucket cylinders. The cylinders have slop in them and I can move the bucket 4" by hand. Causes problems when I back drag to level of material.
What's the best way to bleed out the air without a big mess? I think it might have ran low on fluid one time after I purchased a new backhoe. I bad I know.
 
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The usual method of bleeding is to crack the nut loose on the cylinder fitting on the side of the cylinder being compressed. But yeah, it makes a big mess.

Others just run the cylinders through many full cycles, hoping it eventually works all of the air back through the line, but I’ve never had much luck with this. Loader lines are very long, so it’s easy for air to get trapped out at the end of what is basically i
a dead end system.
 
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I have rebuilt hydraulic cylinders on my JD. I just work the cylinders both directions to purge the air.
 
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I have rebuilt hydraulic cylinders on my JD. I just work the cylinders both directions to purge the air.
I'd bet there's 35 feet of line between the tilt cylinder on my snow plow and the hydraulic reservoir on the tractor, because JD routes their 3rd function from the end of the loader arms to a solenoid and ports on the rear of the tractor, where it's then routed forward again to tie into the main loader hydraulic manifold.

I'd guess you could eventually work all the air from that little cylinder thru all of that line. But given the volume in the lines is many times greater than the volume of the cylinder, it's going to take an awful lot of cycles!
 
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I'd bet there's 35 feet of line between the tilt cylinder on my snow plow and the hydraulic reservoir on the tractor, because JD routes their 3rd function from the end of the loader arms to a solenoid and ports on the rear of the tractor, where it's then routed forward again to tie into the main loader hydraulic manifold.

I'd guess you could eventually work all the air from that little cylinder thru all of that line. But given the volume in the lines is many times greater than the volume of the cylinder, it's going to take an awful lot of cycles!
Wonder how workers on the assembly line accomplish the task? Time is money on an assembly line.
 
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I'd bet there's 35 feet of line between the tilt cylinder on my snow plow and the hydraulic reservoir on the tractor, because JD routes their 3rd function from the end of the loader arms to a solenoid and ports on the rear of the tractor, where it's then routed forward again to tie into the main loader hydraulic manifold.

I'd guess you could eventually work all the air from that little cylinder thru all of that line. But given the volume in the lines is many times greater than the volume of the cylinder, it's going to take an awful lot of cycles!
I've done it on my backhoe and loader after cylinder rebuilds, that's fairly large cylinders and a lot of line. Only takes a few cycles to remove the air.
It sounds like the op either has a problem thats introducing air into the system, or there are some seals going out, if its a persistent problem.



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Wonder how workers on the assembly line accomplish the task? Time is money on an assembly line.
The system in that video has a small reservoir that can't handle the volume of fluid the cylinder requires, thats why it has to be done in stages.

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