abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

[Industrial Toys]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

I knew a lot of guys that "owned" a lot of stuff, half or not paid for, in a lot of places.

Reminds me of something else. Had a friend that had a canoe stored in my barn and an old Rupp snowmobile parked behind my garage. Do you think I could get him to get that stuff out of my place? Then, I became the bad guy!

 

[CobyRupert]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

Okay. -Not a case of "gift" vs. "offer to sell."

He knew (or should have known) you wanted to buy it.

I sort of agree with Industrial Toys and 4570Man, at that point you should of bought it. You "said" you wanted to buy it, but like others have mentioned, what does that mean these days.
From Bob's point of view, you were probably in the same boat as his help who "said" they'd show up to work.
Or like TheOldGrind said: "..we deal more and more with... folks to whom promises are often just idle talk to gain favor. Their two most common expressions I hear are 'I'm gonna'...."

From Bob's pointy of view , he may be a practitioner of the ole adage: "Money talks, ******** walks."

All in all though, it still was a crappy thing to do. Reciprocally, I wouldn't do him any favors either.

 

[Industrial Toys]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

More often than not, if you try and pay for something from someone you kind of know, before you get it, they refuse the money at that time. Or it seems like you are trying to seal the deal on a really good bargain. If you buy something from a friend, cheap, and they find out it was worth a whole lot more, that doesn't look good either. Sometimes, you can't win! When money and friends collide!

 

[Zebrafive]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

I did not understand if "Bob" was offering to give it to you OR sell it to you?? I also did not understand if you wanted to buy it OR just "loved" have it, but not buy it??

I don't know how many times someone has said: "If you EVER want to sell _________, I'd LOVE to have it" But when you do offer to sell, are no longer interested. It's like they are complimenting you on something you have, but really have no interest in it.


Even before this offer happened, I would NOT have started to help build my own barn, that I was paying to have built. I also would not have accepted months to build, life is too short for that.

 

[4570Man]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

Without money changing hand or at minimum making a plan to come get it in the near future I’d have done the same thing. “I’d love to have that” is quite possibly the worst and most reliable thing you could have said. Maybe I might buy it after I get paid on Friday would be worse. Maybe your “friend” could have handled it better but you certainly didn’t clearly communicate your intentions.

 

[4570Man]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

If someone was offering to sell me a multi thousand dollar post driver that wasn’t stolen for $300 I’d be in my truck right now to go get it not diddly farting around hoping to maybe get it later.

 

[Industrial Toys]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

This guy "Bob" was not really a friend so that changes things a bit. On the one hand, you can think that Bob is a such and such, but the guy does sell good stuff pretty cheap, so he can't be all bad and selfish.

Ever want to sell something but not to a friend because you figure you can get more money on the open market? Especially, if the friend maybe knows what you paid for it.

 

[Diggin It]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

Driver issue aside, I'd be wondering if 'Bob' will be finishing the barn to my satisfaction.

 

[jblac197]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

So what exactly are you looking for here?? Sympathy?? People to tell you Bob's a jerk? Don't really get it...

 

[4570Man]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

On a similar note. Ever have friends that always want something you got advantageously? They never get up at 5 am to go to an auction but when you get a bunch of something, they speak up and say they wiill take one of those!

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I know the feeling. I’m always on patrol for a good deal and I’m not afraid to stop and ask about something sitting in someone’s yard either. I’ve gotten some of my best finds doing that. But then there’s never a shortage of someone telling me how lucky I am or wanting to buy it for just a couple more dollars than I paid. I made a lot of people jealous when I bought my 428d Kubota powered grasshopper for $500. Well, they all saw it sitting there and I was the only person that asked about it.

 

[sd455dan]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

You should have paid the guy right then. I never consider anything sold until I have the money in hand. In my experience people are incredibly flaky. I don稚 understand why you壇 promise to buy something and then never show up to get it. I壇 take someone痴 offer to buy something pretty lightly and someone standing there right now would take it every time. I致e been burned too many times to do it different.

agree, aren't those danuser post drivers like $6000+ new? Still, why offer it to a person and not at least ask
1 more time before putting it up for public sale as a courtesy...

 

[4570Man]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

agree, aren't those danuser post drivers like $6000+ new? Still, why offer it to a person and not at least ask
1 more time before putting it up for public sale as a courtesy...

Maybe there’s different classes of them but the big bad skid steer one that’ll drive a railroad tie is upwards of 6k. I’d have given the guy the money right then and been in my truck as quick as he’d meet me there to get something like that. Maybe Bob was a jerk but the OP dropped the ball if he really wanted it.

 

[Doofy]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

I'm having a barn built, last couple weeks I've been helping this fellow Bob since his helper left. I felt sorry for him working alone, he needed help. I didn't worry or ask about pay, I'm retired and believe in the end the company will most likely have consideration.
This morning Bob is telling me he bought a farm not far about 10 miles from here, and there "is a barn full of equipment I'll never use". Then he asked me if I could use a Danuser post driver! He said he listed it for sale for $300...when ad came out he said his phone never stopped ringing.
Then he said "If you'd like to have it I can say it's sold". My reply was "Yes Bob, I'd love to have it". (My exact words)
After lunch I'm helping Bob and he asks how far this place is... I tell him it's about 3 hours away. He said "A guy is coming to get the driver!".
I reminded him I said I wanted it this morning. He said he misunderstood and this other guy is almost here. Bob left the job to meet him at 3pm.
I'm pixxed to say the least, my wife is too.

With Friends like that, who needs Enemas!

 

[Industrial Toys]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

I just only clued in, that it was in fact a driver, not an auger. I think the blood momentarily left my body, realizing the tremendous loss. Oh the humanity!

 

[flashpuppy]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

As such a 'friend', I'm welcome to visit any day to sit with the dog and watch a TV show they ignore while staring at their phones the whole time, ignoring anything I say, but talking during the show, so I get nothing from it while waiting for them to blurt out whatever phrase that isn't worth hearing or repeating. IMO the height of such attitude reflects being from the 'spoiled generation born since 1980 or so. It''s just the way they are, and we're told to let them have/do what they're used to.

Ahhh, yes, the “spoiled” generation. More of the boomers shirking their responsibilities and denying any wrong doing. Who exactly raised this “spoiled” generation?

You realize that most of my generation will never even get to retire. Wonder why that is? Couldn’t have anything to do with the income vs living expenses or the inflation of every **** thing so far beyond our salaries. At the least the boomers did their best to not obliterate the environment.

Perfect little angels the boomers are. Can’t wait to hear about I should “respect my elders” or something. Respect is earned, not a given. The only whiner I see here is you.

What a joke.

 

[Smokeydog]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

So sorry. Happens to me too. Try to help my family and neighbors. Hoping to lead by example. Been burned more often than not. Just glad that I appreciate someone’s help and not like many others.

 

[the old grind]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

... Perfect little angels the boomers are. Can稚 wait to hear about I should 途espect my elders or something. Respect is earned, not a given. The only whiner I see here is you. ..

I won't take that to mean me, personally if you don't take what I said to mean you personally. (edited): I was a bit OT ... in a thread about miscommunication. (Doh!)

You young folks aren't all bad, we oldsters aren't either. We get cocky sometimes because some of us had it pretty tough too, and if what we survived was different it was equally scary. We don't deserve special creds for being a lucky generation, esp in contrast to the crap we're leaving for you.

I can't say a bad word about anything you said. I shouldn't have characterized a group because of the few that surround me.

Sincerely thanks (and more respect to you than I've earned herein) for the lesson on prejudicial stereotyping. I wish it was YOU too that lived next door, Brother.

 

[ovrszd]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

You should have paid the guy right then. I never consider anything sold until I have the money in hand. In my experience people are incredibly flaky. I don稚 understand why you壇 promise to buy something and then never show up to get it. I壇 take someone痴 offer to buy something pretty lightly and someone standing there right now would take it every time. I致e been burned too many times to do it different.

Yep. Well stated.

 

[ovrszd]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

If someone was offering to sell me a multi thousand dollar post driver that wasn稚 stolen for $300 I壇 be in my truck right now to go get it not diddly farting around hoping to maybe get it later.

Oh snap. You beat me to it again.

 

[Thomas]

re: abrogator? Post driver!#%@&

Yep that's kick in the pockets its easy to for give harder to forget,hope it works out for you.