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A Question for Sailors
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The two women who claim to have been lost at sea for five months were on the Today Show. The Samoan woman had never sailed before and they’d met a week prior. The older woman’s primary occupation was apparently as a Dominatrix.
Two women rescued by Navy defend their story of being lost at sea - TODAY.com
Two women rescued by Navy defend their story of being lost at sea - TODAY.com
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No... but it does set a legal precedent.
And in the Fat Lenard case(s), it is deserved. It is really shocking that senior Naval officers, over many years, were bribed with dinner, hotel rooms, booze, and prostitutes to give business to one company. If these "officers" can be bribed with so little, what would they sell for real money?
That this criminal activity lasted for so long, and was known by so many, it is really a dam...ning situation for the USN. Heads should be rolling. Literally.
Since they won't get a trip up to the yard arm by their neck, how about a keel hauling? The USS Constitution would be a fitting place of punishment.
Later,
Dan
turnkey4099
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At first report this one at least appears the navy is not at fault...although seems they werre perhaps too close to the tow.
k0ua
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Uh, looks like some heads are gonna roll:
Naval Commanders In 2 Deadly Ship Collisions To Be Charged With Negligent Homicide : The Two-Way : NPR
Naval Commanders In 2 Deadly Ship Collisions To Be Charged With Negligent Homicide : The Two-Way : NPR
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As they should. Dereliction of duty is serious. Lives were lost needlessly.
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Charged, of course, is not the same as guilty.
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It is hard to 'fathom' how either of these two accidents occurred. I don't have much of a vested interest other than an American and taxpayer, but I sure would like to know the details of how each happened. I don't believe I heard a decent explanation to date.
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I'll try and be to the point.
1) Crew members overworked and not provided with sufficient rest.
2) Crew and officers not properly trained in charge of underway operations in high traffic waters
3) Captains of both vessels not on bridge prior to extremis situation
4) U.S Navy policy of not using AIS in congested waters gave other vessels in area no indication said naval vessels were in area.
The automatic identification system (AIS) is an automatic tracking system used on ships and by vessel traffic services (VTS). When satellites are used to detect AIS signatures, the term Satellite-AIS (S-AIS) is used.
Both situations occurred during night, with no moonlight. Naval ships as these are designed to be "stealth" and difficult to observe by other vessels. They often run without lights, as these ships did at times of accidents.
Bottom line in my opinion, both captains are derelict in their duty as commanders of the vessels.