A Question for Sailors

[Oldpath05]

I heard the USS Mccain is going to be rebuilt in Japan.

 

[bcp]

From, and more at:
Cruiser Photo Index DLG/CG 26 USS BELKNAP - Navsource - Photographic History of the U.S. Navy



Bruce

 

[robertsa]

Allowing people to sleep would be a good start in correcting these problems.

 

[smstonypoint]

The Navy has issued a report on the Fitzgerald and McCain collisions: http://s3.amazonaws.com/CHINFO/USS+Fitzgerald+and+USS+John+S+McCain+Collision+Reports.pdf.

Steve

 

[k0ua]

The Navy has issued a report on the Fitzgerald and McCain collisions: http://s3.amazonaws.com/CHINFO/USS+Fitzgerald+and+USS+John+S+McCain+Collision+Reports.pdf.

Steve

The Officer of the Deck, the person responsible for safe navigation of the ship, exhibited poor
seamanship by failing to maneuver as required, failing to sound the danger signal and failing to
attempt to contact CRYSTAL on Bridge to Bridge radio. In addition, the Officer of the Deck did
not call the Commanding Officer as appropriate and prescribed by Navy procedures to allow him
to exercise more senior oversight and judgment of the situation.
The remainder of the watch team on the bridge failed to provide situational awareness and
input to the Officer of the Deck regarding the situation. Additional teams in the Combat
Information Center (CIC), an area on where tactical information is fused to provide maximum
situational awareness, also failed to provide the Officer of the Deck input and information.


Looks like everyone "asleep at the switch". Sad, but some severe dereliction of duty.

 

[k0ua]

Allowing people to sleep would be a good start in correcting these problems.

8.4 Fatigue
The command leadership allowed the schedule of events preceding the collision to fatigue
the crew.
The command leadership failed to assess the risks of fatigue and implement mitigation
measures to ensure adequate crew rest.

This assessment of USS FITZGERALD is not intended to imply that CRYSTAL mistakes and
deficiencies were not also factors in the collision.

 

[RoyJackson]

Based upon that report, I expect to see both early retirements and a few courts martials as a result.

 

[k0ua]

Based upon that report, I expect to see both early retirements and a few courts martials as a result.

Yup...

 

[turnkey4099]

There are a lot of former admirals rolling over in their graves at the state our navy has fallen to. One can only hope that that is not the typical of the rest of the navy.

 

[Garandman]

In the meantime, the Navy rescued two women and their dogs who claimed to have left Hawaii for Tahiti (about 2,000 miles south) in a 50’ sailboat. They claim an intense storm disabled their engine and mast: NOAA shows no unusual storms then.

They were rescued about 1,000 miles from Japan - NW of Hawaii. The boat had an EPIRB, which they never activated. Oh, and their boat was attacked by 75’ sharks....

Lost women sailors' tale of survival springing leaks

 

[Garandman]

There are a lot of former admirals rolling over in their graves at the state our navy has fallen to. One can only hope that that is not the typical of the rest of the navy.

It absolutely is. The sailors don’t receive enough training before they are sent to the fleet, and the ships are so short-staffed they can’t do enough OJT.

As usual, the guys in the field take the fall for faulty policies. Let’s see how many Admirals take a fall.....

 

[houstonscott]

Modern technology caused McCain collision.

 

[Wagtail]

Perhaps they need to make an 'example' of a few senior officers/policy makers...

The Execution of Admiral Byng | History Today

 

[k0ua]

Modern technology caused McCain collision.

I particularly found the officers statement that the "AIS screen was hopelessly cluttered and was useless" a little incredible.

Translation: "I really don't know how to read this thing, and I don't have the time to figure it out".

 

[/pine]

The navy sure didn't need this right now....

‘Fat Leonard’ probe expands to ensnare more than 6 admirals - The Washington Post

 

[dmccarty]

Lets rearrange the posts.....

The navy sure didn't need this right now....

詮at Leonard probe expands to ensnare more than 6 admirals - The Washington Post

Link to McCain and Fitzgerald collision report, http://s3.amazonaws.com/CHINFO/USS+Fitzgerald+and+USS+John+S+McCain+Collision+Reports.pdf

Perhaps they need to make an 'example' of a few senior officers/policy makers...

The Execution of Admiral Byng | History Today

Yes, there should be some modern day Admiral Byngs...

Later,
Dan

 

[Garandman]

Perhaps they need to make an 'example' of a few senior officers/policy makers...

The Execution of Admiral Byng | History Today

Dont think the execution of a British Admiral in 1757 is pertinent today.