A Question for Sailors

/ A Question for Sailors #141  
You have a 270 ship navy, with enough funding and people for 200 ships, doing a job that takes 600 ships. What do you think was going to happen. Add to that most of the 200 ships are more then 25 years old.
 
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#142  
Again, I am not much of a conspiracy guy, buuut.... "a loss of steering right before the collision, and regain of steering right after".. Um.... boy, I would sure check that out really good and see if there was any way it could be hacked. It seems incredible, but...

So, are the helm and rudders of modern vessels connected mechanically? Or are modern vessels steered by wire?

Steve

PS

James, I have read that the claim that tin-foil hats block the government from reading your thoughts is government propaganda. The hats actually facilitate that process. What is your stance on this matter.;)
 
/ A Question for Sailors #143  
So, are the helm and rudders of modern vessels connected mechanically? Or are modern vessels steered by wire? Steve PS James, I have read that the claim that tin-foil hats block the government from reading your thoughts is government propaganda. The hats actually facilitate that process. What is your stance on this matter.;)
Which tender were you on, I was OOD on Sagebrush in San Juan PR. I was part of the hand picked crew to bring her back after the gay CO ran it aground.
 
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#145  
Which tender were you on, I was OOD on Sagebrush in San Juan PR. I was part of the hand picked crew to bring her back after the gay CO ran it aground.

The Madrona, from 1966-67. There were three other buoy tenders stationed at Portsmouth, VA at the same time (Conifer, Mistletoe, and Sledge*).

Steve

* I'm a little hazy on the Sledge. I checked online and I didn't remember the Sledge being 75' long -- I remembered a shorter vessel.
 
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/ A Question for Sailors #146  
So, are the helm and rudders of modern vessels connected mechanically? Or are modern vessels steered by wire?

Steve

PS

James, I have read that the claim that tin-foil hats block the government from reading your thoughts is government propaganda. The hats actually facilitate that process. What is your stance on this matter.;)

Steve I fall into the camp that eschews the wearing of aluminum foil hats as in actuality they will make the electric fields inside the brain easier to couple to thru the forming of basicly a large electrolytic capacitor. As anyone that has ever taken an electrolytic capacitor apart will instantly recognize that same foil inside of the capacitor body. With the brain forming the other "plate" of the capacitor, and the outside foil having a resonant frequency near 222 Mhz one can easily understand how this facilitates mind reading and control on or near these frequencies.

I also find it no coincidence that the 222 to 225 Mhz band was give to the United Parcel Service a few years ago by the US government. This was a plot to "farm out" the mind reading and control task to the private sector, in this case megalith of the UPS. You can find this just a coincidence if you want to, just as easily as you may dismiss pallets stacked in an inverted V configuration, but I for one see a pattern forming here.

With tongue firmly planted in cheek, your friend, James.:)
 
/ A Question for Sailors #147  
/ A Question for Sailors #148  
Which tender were you on, I was OOD on Sagebrush in San Juan PR. I was part of the hand picked crew to bring her back after the gay CO ran it aground.

Gay as in happy or gay as in **********?

Could one then assume per your comment the last two accidents were at the fault of either happy or ********** men at the helm of the ships?
 
/ A Question for Sailors #149  
So, are the helm and rudders of modern vessels connected mechanically? Or are modern vessels steered by wire?

Steve

PS
....

I don't know about big ships, but on smaller boats most?/all of the steering is mechanical or hydraulic. However, steering is almost always done via an autopilot which can be hooked up to an electronic chart plotter which can lead to problems because of the crew mistakes. One thing that I find risky is that there is a movement in the industry to have navigation controls handled over WiFi. There are remote control units, just a glorified tv remote, that allows one to set course and speed. This can also be done via tablet and I assume cell phones. :shocked::shocked::shocked:

There is SOOOOO much wrong with this level of computerization. The hand held could be very helpful with a single person when dealing with the anchor but using this stuff to dock or navigate in traffic gives me the willies. Sooooo much to go wrong. I know darn well someone will eventually run up on a reef, hit a dock or another boat because the batteries in the remote died....:shocked:

Then add on the idea of someone hacking into your helm control over WiFi.... Or getting a malware that locks up you system while docking or in traffic...

If the USN has WiFi enabled navigation systems on the ships, someone should be keel hauled a few hundred times and then hung from the yard arm of the USS Constitution.

Later,
Dan
 
/ A Question for Sailors #150  
I don't know about big ships, but on smaller boats most?/all of the steering is mechanical or hydraulic. However, steering is almost always done via an autopilot which can be hooked up to an electronic chart plotter which can lead to problems because of the crew mistakes. One thing that I find risky is that there is a movement in the industry to have navigation controls handled over WiFi. There are remote control units, just a glorified tv remote, that allows one to set course and speed. This can also be done via tablet and I assume cell phones. :shocked::shocked::shocked:

There is SOOOOO much wrong with this level of computerization. The hand held could be very helpful with a single person when dealing with the anchor but using this stuff to dock or navigate in traffic gives me the willies. Sooooo much to go wrong. I know darn well someone will eventually run up on a reef, hit a dock or another boat because the batteries in the remote died....:shocked:

Then add on the idea of someone hacking into your helm control over WiFi.... Or getting a malware that locks up you system while docking or in traffic...

If the USN has WiFi enabled navigation systems on the ships, someone should be keel hauled a few hundred times and then hung from the yard arm of the USS Constitution.

Later,
Dan

Are you saying there is a possibility, however remote that the steering system of the McCain was hacked? I am looking for the aluminum colander to put on my head now...
 
/ A Question for Sailors #151  
Are you saying there is a possibility, however remote that the steering system of the McCain was hacked? I am looking for the aluminum colander to put on my head now...
You'll need the aluminum colander, a layer of bubble wrap, and then a layer of tinfoil. That'll make a really neat capacitor!
 
/ A Question for Sailors #152  
You'll need the aluminum colander, a layer of bubble wrap, and then a layer of tinfoil. That'll make a really neat capacitor!

Yeah, but you risk high voltage arc over. :D
 
/ A Question for Sailors #153  
I can think of two reasons right off the top of my head.

1. Although details are lacking, the Navy has just as much admitted that the Fitzgerald was at fault in the first collision. See this link posted by Garandman:
Navy Punishes Leadership of USS Fitzgerald Following Deadly Collision Off Japan - NBC News.

2. We don't know any details regarding the second collision.

Steve

But that won't stop the 'conspiracists'. They gotta have at least one before breakfast every day.
 
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#154  
Are you saying there is a possibility, however remote that the steering system of the McCain was hacked? I am looking for the aluminum colander to put on my head now...

James,

Make sure that you post a "selfie." :)

Steve
 
/ A Question for Sailors #155  
Not much in this article, except the Navy is now looking at being hacked and lots of photos. Think about it...... in the recent past, 4 ships, all in the Pacific, have accidents that put them out of action. Why is it only happening in the Pacific, close to China and N. Korea?
US Navy 'to consider' whether crashed warships were hacked | Daily Mail Online
CBS World news just stated the McCain lost steerage 3 minutes before the collision.
hugs, Brandi
 
/ A Question for Sailors #158  
So, are the helm and rudders of modern vessels connected mechanically? Or are modern vessels steered by wire?

Steve

PS

James, I have read that the claim that tin-foil hats block the government from reading your thoughts is government propaganda. The hats actually facilitate that process. What is your stance on this matter.;)

If I may interject with a "Trick For Young Players"... You don't replace tin foil hats, that's how 'they' get you.

You just add more layers.
 

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/ A Question for Sailors #159  
Wow!!

The Straits of Malacca, where the collision occurred, is one of the world’s busiest waterways and a true maritime chokepoint. The strait connects the Indian and Pacific Oceans and nearly 100,000 ships pass through the strait annually. One-quarter of all the world’s goods move through the Strait of Malacca, which is only one-and-a-half nautical miles wide at its narrowest point.

The waters where the destroyer and tanker hit are claimed by both Malaysia and Singapore. Both nations have claimed the collision occurred in their waters and that each nation was leading the search and rescue effort to locate the missing sailors. Malaysia went as far to announce that one of its ships, the KD Handalan, was the first unit of any nation to respond to the destroyer’s request for help.
There are about 60 "incidents" a year.
 
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/ A Question for Sailors #160  
Again, I hearken back to my Navy days of yore... (and I've visited Singapore on a warship)

The SOP for entering any constricted or hazardous navigational situation was to close-up Special Sea Dutymen. SSD would include at least two Ratings (one Bosn and one Stoker), aft in the 'Tiller Flats'. They would man the Emergency Steering helm.

It looks like those positions have been sacrificed to 'minimum manning'.
 

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