A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer?

   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #11  
<font color="blue"> Now here is my question: Is it more humane to shoot a deer with an arrow and have it die (typically in fairly short time) from blood loss... ] , or is it more humane to have them starve to death over a couple months, suffering the whole time? </font>

Bob,
I agree that it is better to thin the herd than let them starve. It has been proven time and time again by scientists and biologists in our Indiana state parks that this needs to be done not only for the good of the herd, but for the good of the entire ecosystem. Overpopulation of any one species is a problem and we all know how in areas with an overpopulation of deer, all life species suffer from lack of food and habitat. That is why they brought in the controlled hunts to some of the state parks. Before the hunts, the forest floor was bare from the dirt to as high as the deer could reach. About 6 –7 feet. All plant life in that range was gone with the exception of large trees. There were thousands of deer and little else. And the deer that were there were pathetic, skinny animals. Since the hunts, the parks have rebounded magnificently. The plants and other animals have returned, the deer are healthier and you can’t see through the forest for miles, like you could before. The controlled hunts worked very well.

As for my personal feelings about bow hunting…
Harvesting an animal for consumption or population control is fine with me. I enjoy the taste of venison and allow hunting on our property to a select few. However, I frown on bow hunting, while I accept firearm hunting. Here’s why… the hunters that I have talked to tell me firearms kill the deer faster, more efficiently and therefore more humanely. These hunters tell me a well-placed shot with a firearm usually drops the deer in its tracks or within a very short distance. They also tell me that with a well-placed shot with an arrow, the deer usually does not drop in its tracks. It runs off and takes longer to die. Either way, the deer dies. How it dies, the time it takes to die, and the pain it feels while it dies is important to me.

Do I want a ban on bow hunting? No. Do I let people bow hunt on my property? No. It’s a personal decision for each hunter or landowner.

And remember, the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is not the same organization as your local Humane Society. They need your support and donations.
 
   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #12  
<font color="blue"> Bowhunting Deer? </font>

That's worse that the right to arm bears!
 
   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #13  
<font color="blue"> Not sure of the ban but it could depend what the Deer are out hunting with thier bows! </font>

Egon,

Good one. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Now I'm not angry anymore.
 
   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #14  
<font color="blue"> Not sure of the ban but it could depend what the Deer are out hunting with thier bows! </font>

One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know.
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   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #15  
I don't think it can happen around here. In our area they are even thinking of having two seasons because of the population. This year I believe if you shoot a buck first, you can go back out and get a doe. Now I am not a hunter so I may have the rules twisted a bit. However, we have way too many deer in our area.

As far as the society trying to put a ban on bows. I agree they will start there and keep going. In fact they will probably even fight for government funds to help them out. (We have enough government programs)

A little story about a really small town close to me. Each year this town has a festival called the Viola Gopher Days. One of the best week-end events around. They actually use to have awards for the most gopher feet brought in. About 6 years ago some organization tried putting a stop to the festival as it was inhumane to animals. (Well gophers mostly). The person heading up this whole protest on the first day of the event was wearing leather pants. Yes leather pants. Oh yes, and by her side was a doberman pincher. It was a funny doberman because it must have been born not normal. You see it looked like someone clipped it's ears and it had no tail. Long story short she was laughed out of town.

murph
 
   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #16  
<font color="blue"> Here’s why… the hunters that I have talked to tell me firearms kill the deer faster, more efficiently and therefore more humanely. </font>

I bet all these hunters use guns. An arrow kills by causing massive bleeding as the blades of a broadhead neatly slice through organs, veins and arteries. The blades are so sharp, many deer die before even feeling the pain.
 
   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #17  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The blades are so sharp, many deer die before even feeling the pain. )</font>

This strikes me as remarkably difficult to prove, though to be honest, I never really thought about it. I suppose it makes some sense. Still, I assume there are just as many bow hunters as gun hunters who shoot the poor thing in the **** then decide it isn't worth the effort to track all day in the cold wet weather.

What I'm digressing about is that there are a few hunters who give the rest a bad name just like there are a few animal rights activests who give the rest a bad name.

OK, I'm not sure what I was digressing toward. What were we talking about again? Oh yes, bow hunting. Well I guess this is the season to go bow hunting. You need one for each present under the tree.

Cliff
 
   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #18  
A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer?

Calm down ... not gonna happen.


You are 100 % correct.
 
   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #19  
I bet all these hunters use guns. An arrow kills by causing massive bleeding as the blades of a broadhead neatly slice through organs, veins and arteries. The blades are so sharp, many deer die before even feeling the pain.

Dave,
A high powered rifle will not make a very big hole going into the deer,but once inside the deer the bullet generally explodes from traveling so fast and will tear up an area the size of my fist. Very lethal indeed.
 
   / A National Ban on Bowhunting Deer? #20  
<font color="blue"> A high powered rifle </font>

Here in Maryland, rifles are illegal. We have bow, of course, but firearms are limited to muzzleloader and shotgun. Each have their own season.
 

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