A monkey wrench afternoon

[MyJoBota]

How old is this tractor? I am curious if this tractor had the safety switch in the seat and if it has been "modified"? Glad no one was injured.

 

[20 20]

Everyone is willing to accept another safety switch rather than insisting that the tractor manufacturers design them safer and ergonomically. After all they are made to operate with human, not a robot. There should be no reason that a design could not accomodate the human body with enough clearances to operate it in a safe manner and get on and off in a safe manner while fully clothed. Flat deck helps, but when the mfg. puts levers, pedals etc in the way so that you cant get on or off without hanging up on hydraulics, hydrostat pedals etc, then it is time to redesign.

:thumbsup: well written

 

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How old is this tractor? I am curious if this tractor had the safety switch in the seat and if it has been "modified"? Glad no one was injured.

26 years old. Can start the tractor w/o sitting on it if in neutral. Can also engage initial gear w/o clutch. Tractor keeps running at dismount. What does a safety switch do?

 

[Gizmo2]

Everyone is willing to accept another safety switch rather than insisting that the tractor manufacturers design them safer and ergonomically. After all they are made to operate with human, not a robot. There should be no reason that a design could not accomodate the human body with enough clearances to operate it in a safe manner and get on and off in a safe manner while fully clothed. Flat deck helps, but when the mfg. puts levers, pedals etc in the way so that you cant get on or off without hanging up on hydraulics, hydrostat pedals etc, then it is time to redesign.

Is not a safety switch safer?

 

[JDGreenGrass]

If I understand you are saying it was the rear blade that put the tractor over.??....Are you saying it "shifted" on you.??

I highly doubt the blade put it over.

And, if the swing in the blade had that big of an effect on the tractor going over then....tighten up the turnbuckles.

 

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If I understand you are saying it was the rear blade that put the tractor over.??....Are you saying it "shifted" on you.??

I highly doubt the blade put it over.

And, if the swing in the blade had that big of an effect on the tractor going over then....tighten up the turnbuckles.

Turnbuckles have no more adjustment play in them besides , I doubt any rear blade put on any tractor is like a rock solid venture without some free play. The tractor went over because it went over a rock. The blade shifting certainly could have added to the weight shift differential adding to the possibility of assisting the tractor going over as I did not do an experiment to see if the tractor would go over w/o the blade backing over the same rock so I cannot be as cock sure as you.
You can highly doubt all you want, I am not bringing a rear blade into these woods again.

 

[beeforty]

26 years old. Can start the tractor w/o sitting on it if in neutral. Can also engage initial gear w/o clutch. Tractor keeps running at dismount. What does a safety switch do?

The SAFETY or DEADMAN switch stops the motor when the user falls off the seat. My riding mower has this feature but only when mowing.

 

[dcyrilc]

Everyone is willing to accept another safety switch rather than insisting that the tractor manufacturers design them safer and ergonomically. After all they are made to operate with human, not a robot. There should be no reason that a design could not accomodate the human body with enough clearances to operate it in a safe manner and get on and off in a safe manner while fully clothed. Flat deck helps, but when the mfg. puts levers, pedals etc in the way so that you cant get on or off without hanging up on hydraulics, hydrostat pedals etc, then it is time to redesign.

I believe that all owners manuals state to turn the machine off before dismounting. Simply following the directions in the owners manual would have prevented this.

Of course after stating this, no I don't do it either. I get on and off regularly without turning off the machine.

 

[Wheatland KB]

I did not do an experiment to see if the tractor would go over w/o the blade backing over the same rock.

Chicken!

Just kidding I am glad everything worked out well and you had a chance to look over the underside of the old girl. I might have grabbed the grease gun!

Thanks for posting.

 

[beenthere]

Everyone is willing to accept another safety switch rather than insisting that the tractor manufacturers design them safer and ergonomically. After all they are made to operate with human, not a robot. There should be no reason that a design could not accomodate the human body with enough clearances to operate it in a safe manner and get on and off in a safe manner while fully clothed. Flat deck helps, but when the mfg. puts levers, pedals etc in the way so that you cant get on or off without hanging up on hydraulics, hydrostat pedals etc, then it is time to redesign.

Gary
Then they would have to be wider and longer. Not my idea of a CUT.

I'm happy with what I have.

 

[MyJoBota]

Everyone is willing to accept another safety switch rather than insisting that the tractor manufacturers design them safer and ergonomically. After all they are made to operate with human, not a robot. There should be no reason that a design could not accomodate the human body with enough clearances to operate it in a safe manner and get on and off in a safe manner while fully clothed. Flat deck helps, but when the mfg. puts levers, pedals etc in the way so that you cant get on or off without hanging up on hydraulics, hydrostat pedals etc, then it is time to redesign.

Gary todays tractors are safer and more ergonomically correct than ever before. Take for example the original posters 26 year old tractor and compare it to a same or similar model tractor built today and there is absolutely no comparison in safety and comfort between the two. With todays technology we are building some of the safest tractors as well as automobiles ever. I understand how this could accident could happen on a vintage tractor such as the original posters but not on a late model unit.

 

[SixHoeBob]

Thirty posts to one post. Not a very good ratio. The correct answer is as dcyrilc stated; stop the engine before leaving the seat. If the tractor has issues with starting/re-starting, the correct solution is to fix the tractor. And as dcyrillc also stated; do as I say/not as I do. If we all take a moment to ponder what could have happened, maybe we will take a little more time to be careful. Myself included. The machine only has to win once, I need to win every time.

 

[Mace Canute]

Yep! If there's an issue getting off the tractor without accidentally knocking it into gear, shut it off. It's that simple.

 

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Yep! If there's an issue getting off the tractor without accidentally knocking it into gear, shut it off. It's that simple.

Yeah , and what else is so simple in life that hindsight didn't demonstrate to you? Didn't know there was an issue until this time. Been doing it the same way for 26 years. Its like leaving your house by the front door for 40 years and one day an icicle that formed over night falls off as you are descending the stairs and impales your skull. You then get to say "In winter, leave the house from the back door or wear a hard hat"? I suppose you can ponder how many other things one does that imperils one on a daily basis that one never realized before. That is a refreshing mindset as you pick up the chainsaw. Cheez, even if this becomes overwhelming and you stay in bed the rest of your life for safety sake, one can get bedsores and perhaps die from the infection.
I never made an "issue" of this. I never blamed the tractor, nor wished to sue JD nor did I post this to say "See what can happen to you so be careful out there" No I posted this because of its weirdness and peculiarity and kinda comical nature because that's the first thing I did was to laugh. I just picked the tractor up and went on working. So I thought I'd share it and that's the whole ball of wax to it as far as I'm concerned. Make whatever you want of it that makes you feel good. To all that wished me well, thank you but not once did I feel in peril or even had a "whew" moment.

 

[dcyrilc]

Yeah , and what else is so simple in life that hindsight didn't demonstrate to you? Didn't know there was an issue until this time. Been doing it the same way for 26 years. Its like leaving your house by the front door for 40 years and one day an icicle that formed over night falls off as you are descending the stairs an impales your skull. You then get to say "In winter, leave the house from the back door or wear a hard hat"? I suppose you can ponder how many other things one does that imperils one on a daily basis that one never realized before. Cheez, even if this becomes overwhelming and you stay in bed the rest of your life for safety sake, one can get bedsores and perhaps die from the infection.
I never made an "issue" of this. I never blamed the tractor, nor wished to sue JD nor did I post this to say "See what can happen to you so be careful out there" No I posted this because of its weirdness and peculiarity and kinda comical nature because thats the first thing I did was to laugh. I just picked the tractor up and went on working. So I thought I'd share it and that's the whole ball of wax to it as far as I'm concerned. Make whatever you want of it that makes you feel good. To all that wished me well, thank you.

I'll step up and say I'm sorry since I seem to be the one who started this with my comment about turning off the tractor.

Glad to hear you're OK and I'm with you as to the humor of it. That's how I usually view the things I run into. Even when I did the super slide off the barn roof.:shocked: I just called my wife and asked her to bring me the car because I didn't want to climb into the new truck when I looked like the Creature from the Black Lagoon.:laughing: I do teather myself now when I need to get on the roof though. No sense testing fate.

 

[buck12]

Arrow, thanks for sharing. I am glad it turned out well. Stuff happens at least to me. Apparently stuff doesn't happen to some posters. I hope their luck holds out.

 

[Mace Canute]

Yeah , and what else is so simple in life that hindsight didn't demonstrate to you? Didn't know there was an issue until this time. Been doing it the same way for 26 years. Its like leaving your house by the front door for 40 years and one day an icicle that formed over night falls off as you are descending the stairs and impales your skull. You then get to say "In winter, leave the house from the back door or wear a hard hat"? I suppose you can ponder how many other things one does that imperils one on a daily basis that one never realized before. That is a refreshing mindset as you pick up the chainsaw. Cheez, even if this becomes overwhelming and you stay in bed the rest of your life for safety sake, one can get bedsores and perhaps die from the infection.
I never made an "issue" of this. I never blamed the tractor, nor wished to sue JD nor did I post this to say "See what can happen to you so be careful out there" No I posted this because of its weirdness and peculiarity and kinda comical nature because that's the first thing I did was to laugh. I just picked the tractor up and went on working. So I thought I'd share it and that's the whole ball of wax to it as far as I'm concerned. Make whatever you want of it that makes you feel good. To all that wished me well, thank you but not once did I feel in peril or even had a "whew" moment.

I have one tractor that is easily knocked into gear when I get off it. Loooong ago before anything happened because of that I started to shut it off before I dismounted.

I guess looking at a situation and asking myself "What can go wrong and how can I prevent it?" has become an instinctive ingrained response to everything I do now since my career was as a Lineman working on high voltage electrical lines. There's rarely a second chance there, for myself or for my friends or for the general public if something goes wrong. This isn't hind sight, it's forethought.

 

[jake98]

It looks well-built under there. :thumbsup:

 

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I have one tractor that is easily knocked into gear when I get off it. Loooong ago before anything happened because of that I started to shut it off before I dismounted.

I guess looking at a situation and asking myself "What can go wrong and how can I prevent it?" has become an instinctive ingrained response to everything I do now since my career was as a Lineman working on high voltage electrical lines. There's rarely a second chance there, for myself or for my friends or for the general public if something goes wrong. This isn't hind sight, it's forethought.

A person is adroit to think what can go wrong beforehand but there are things that cannot be seen until it happens and in my previous career, there also weren't many do overs. If you learn from that, then that sir is certainly hind sight. Either yours or someone else's. Think of all the poor bloakes that taught us what mushrooms not to eat.That's why they say about it being 20/20. Far be it from me to tell anyone they should have their eyes checked

 

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It looks well-built under there. :thumbsup:

It does doesn't it and I did forget the darn grease gun.