A CUT with AWS??

ledebuhr1 · Feb 13, 2004

Is there any manufacture that makes a CUT with AWS?? not articulting like the big tractors. Would this be possible with the 3ph??

Bob_Skurka · Feb 13, 2004

None I have ever seen, but the articulated Steiner Tractors might be the closest thing you'd get. Most Steiners look like traditional CUTs but they are hinged in the center. They are best known for their side slope mowers.

Steiner Tractors

Taylortractornut · Feb 13, 2004

The only one I can think of was Honda made a CUT with all wheel steer. i remeber when i was 12 or 13 we saw one at a local Honda dealer.

RonL · Feb 13, 2004

The Bobcat Toolcat has AWS. Don't know if you would consider it a CUT.

RonL

Larry_Van_Horn · Feb 13, 2004

To the best of my knowledge the best you can do is go with one of the largest JD lawn and garden (455, and newer 5??) that have a cat 0 3 pt hitch. In CUTs if you primarily care about turning radius the NH with Supersteer are probably the tightest.
Larry

RobertN · Feb 13, 2004

Bobcat makes a TLB and a Skid steer with AWS. The TLB is live AWS, while the skid-steer can be switched between skidsteer mode and AWS mode.

The TLB is availble from 30 to I think about 40hp, but I'm not sure... I used the 30hp one; it manuevered really well.

ledebuhr1 · Feb 14, 2004

Thanks, I wonder why there isnt a manufacture that makes a CUT with AWS?? I would be really benificial in some areas.

Bob_Skurka · Feb 14, 2004

Maybe cost prohibitive to have AWS? I don't know what percentage of tractors New Holland sells with SuperSteer, but there might not be enough demand for the added benefit of a tighter turning radius? SuperSteer is about $1000 extra, what would AWS add in cost and how much tighter would the turning radius get for that added cost?

I remember the Honda AWS from several years ago, but that was probably a lawn tractor, and I think Honda exited the tractor business (at least I don't see them advertised for the past few years).

I guess my question is what size CUT would you want AWS and what would its primary job be?

Sub-Compact CUTS like the mini-Masseys and mini-Kubotas already turn pretty tight and make fine lawn mowers as well as offering lots of other capabilities.

Compacts like the NH TC18D and TC24D, the smaller JD 4xTEN series, etc are not as good for lawn mowing chores as the mini-tractors becuase they don't turn quite as tight, but they are very nice small tractors that are capable of real tractor stuff, they can get into horse stalls, dig ditches, etc.

As you scale up in size, NH offers the SuperSteer option. I suppose it would be nice to turn a 30hp+ size tractor is a smaller circle, but my first real tractor was an 40 year old Oliver and that took about a 1/4 of an acre to turn around so I am pretty happy with the CUTs and how they turn.

AndyMA · Feb 14, 2004

Kubota made one a few years back. I saw one at a show but never in a dealership.Maybe it was only a concept vehicle. All 4 wheels steered, it could crab and go on very steep hills. It could have an operator or it could be controlled with a remote control like a radio controlled car for very step areas. I don't know what happened to it. Perhaps Art will know.

Andy

rockyridgefarm · Feb 14, 2004

Oops! beat me to it. In the mid 80s we had one. Sure made people take a double take when that Kubota would drive by sans operator. And then start going sideways without turning.

The idea was for safety. You could get off and mow a steep bank...