911 response time

[atsah]

A Dog is both an excellent early warning system and a deterrent.

For sure.. probably 25-30 minute response time for me so the Shepherd is here for many reasons and the most important one is in his blood.. If something/someone is around he knows it and conveys the information to me in split second time.. A 12GA always at the ready backs him up..

 

[TheMan419]

Op here

Re dog - we have one. She is an awful watch dog. We love her anyway.

Re wife actively carrying - she will not. So need best 2nd choice.

As for those who say I over reacted.... wrong. Dude comes up to my BACK DOOR. Only way to do that and not see the no trespass sign and not set off the drive way alarm is to not enter the property from the driveway.

Out come is the police did not come back to the house. They found him and he was wanted on warrants. That does not matter to my resolution of the matter in the moment because of course I did not know that. I had to call dispatch to find that out.

I cannot imagine opening the door in that situation. That is just crazy talk.

Indiana law is if the person is in the house I am justified in shooting. Outside the house it becomes much more complicated.

From a personal standpoint I would not want to have to live with having killed someone. However had things gone the other way and had he tried to break in there is no doubt in my mind I would have shot.

 

[RickB]

That’s about all that can be said.

 

[bunyip]

We have a police station but it is rarely manned and police attendance would be about an hour unless there is a vehicle in the area, nearest 24 hour police are over 30km away but they will come from the least busy at the time which could be over 70km away, on the other hand we have a back up ambulance called first responder which is manned by volunteers who administer what is needed until an ambulance arrives, they are trained level III first aiders which is the top level and they have a fitted out ambulance but they cannot do the work of a MICA staff member (Mobile Intensive Care Ambulance).
Rural fire brigade is also volunteer and are quick to respond.
Three German Shepherds keep the undesirables at bay.

 

[atsah]

Three German Shepherds keep the undesirables at bay.

Three, even better..

 

[bunyip]

Daughter breeds them, we just got two litters so it is 15 at the moment, 12 of them I can almost fit in my hands, not a threat yet

 

[4570Man]

I can’t comment on how well a scared woman would function.

Generally speaking, the “I feared for my life” defense needs to be paired with the conclusion that a reasonable person would feel the same.

In Ohio, the boundary of the house is significant. Once inside, there is an “initial presumption” that the intruder poses a grave threat. So in a situation similar to this one, if the home owner shot through the door, and the intruder had not produced a firearm or made a threat, I think there’s a decent chance that the home owner goes to jail.

If the intruder kicked in the back door after being verbally challenged by the home owner, then there is not much need to ask further questions. IMHO.

I can’t imagine very many justified shootings with you inside and the intruder outside. Once they’re inside it’s pretty safe to assume they weren’t coming to spread the gospel and I’m shooting.

 

[Jstpssng]

Op here

Re dog - we have one. She is an awful watch dog. We love her anyway.

Re wife actively carrying - she will not. So need best 2nd choice.

As for those who say I over reacted.... wrong. Dude comes up to my BACK DOOR. Only way to do that and not see the no trespass sign and not set off the drive way alarm is to not enter the property from the driveway.

Out come is the police did not come back to the house. They found him and he was wanted on warrants. That does not matter to my resolution of the matter in the moment because of course I did not know that. I had to call dispatch to find that out.

I cannot imagine opening the door in that situation. That is just crazy talk.

Indiana law is if the person is in the house I am justified in shooting. Outside the house it becomes much more complicated.

From a personal standpoint I would not want to have to live with having killed someone. However had things gone the other way and had he tried to break in there is no doubt in my mind I would have shot.

Knowing that, I will retract my previous statement.

 

[atsah]

As for those who say I over reacted.... wrong. Dude comes up to my BACK DOOR. Only way to do that and not see the no trespass sign and not set off the drive way alarm is to not enter the property from the driveway.

You didn't over react at all.. No one bangs on any part of my house after dark, I would never open the door, to many people on drugs these days to trust anyone.. It took me a month to find a new Shepherd after the last one died, I felt like I lost a valuable level of protection for a while until he reached 2 years old, I'm going to stagger another one in when he is about five for my benefit and his..

 

[Jstpssng]

I wouldn't have opened the door either, and nobody in their right mind would try to get through it when my dog's going apes; yet there are alternatives. Until his last post I was thinking of a woman I was talking to about 20 years ago who had two strange men pounding on her door at 3:00 AM. It turns out that they were hikers, and had left their campsite 5 hours previously because a fellow hiker had gotten seriously dehydrated and was having seizures. Luckily for him the woman didn't start screaming and calling for help; instead she listened to them then called in the cavalry, which carried the sick man off the mountain early the next morning.