Ok you know what, Like I said I don't like bad mouthing any of the tractor brands, if they didn't make something that many didn't like then they wouldn't be in business, look, if you read the posts, someone asked my a question on what MY take on the Kioti, Mahinda, and some others were. I believe I stated clearly that it was just my opinion at that point. Hey, These machines are all built to do a job, the tractor is built for the individual that has a job to do, the individual can decide for themselves what is the right machine for them. However, if they ask someone for their open opinion, then they have every right to take into consideration that persons opinion or not. Is that fair to say? Im not coming on here to be attached by people who must have some atomic, hair trigger like emotions for their machines. Hey if a nut falls off your tractor & you hear from across your shop floor, do you super man dive over to it and zip it back on? for heaven sakes, don't shed tears, every single tractor make has a nut or bolt fall off, they all have weaknesses, they all have strengths, Its what gives each their "competitive advantage" if you have heard the term before. mmmk? fair to say? No, I'm sure someone has some sort of problem with that to. oh well dang gee wiz yall. I'm not going to be drug into bashing the competition like I said, and I don't believe I have, it was a question that was asked that I gave my opinion on while giving credit to Kioti from what I know of them. You don't think im going to come on here and bash Kubota now am I? No, if someone wanted to find out what others think about Kubota then they can certainly find that out as well, I am just about 3000% certain. Then if they are in the market for a tractor, they can weigh the options themselves, and may the best brand win. mmk? Fair? no im sure not fair at all. to the guy that was talking about the Bobcat loaders, Ill have to check my wording but I believe I said skid steer loaders, if not, then that's what I meant. The Bobcat tractor line we do not sell, let me state this, we don't sell it not because its Kioti and whatever pokes people want to make, we had a bobcat tractor on the lot when they first started the tractors but in wake of the "financial meltdown" what have you, Bobcat was going through some rough times & some changes, it didn't pan out. So the loaders you speak of to the bobcat tractors I couldn't tell you where they got them, I don't see why they wouldn't use the Kioti but hey, I see mismatched machines & loaders a lot so it happens. I did not experience any cracking on the one unit we had, of course it was new & in all fairness the customer I sold that only unit to I have not heard from since so it must be doing very well, I know he moved to Montana with it & said he had a dealer close to him there & he seemed very happy with his purchase. no go ahead, lets hear all your mouths start firing whatcha got. I have been fair I believe but someone is surely sighting me in right now with their little red dot and laser guided missile I can feel it burning the back of my head right now. lol, yall are fun. make sure you wipe that tear off your shop floor now, that's a no no.