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[daTeacha]

With all you guys having relatively recently purchased a 790, maybe you can tell me what to think of a dealer offering me a ne 790 with the 300 loader and Ag tires for $14,640. This was his initial price, written down on an order sheet.

This same dealer has a 4310 hydro with a heavy duty loader/bucket that he said is listed for $17,500 but can be had for closer to $16k.

Keep in mind that I saw a used 4210 with FEL, MMM, Ehydro, and power beyond go at auction this past weekend for $20k, which I think is higher than new, but it lets you know what kind of buyers are running around here.

 

[FordTruckGuy]

Price for my 790 4WD with 400 loader was $14,500. So seems in the ballpark.

 

[Whiskey]

daTeacha:

I'll have to agree with Fordtruckguy, your in the ball park. There is not a huge profit margin on the basic tractors like the 790 & 990.

I paid $14,200.00 two years ago
790 4x4
loaded R4 tires
419 loader (last years style)
loader level indacater
rear work light
LX5 mower
Brought to my door with free pick up and drop off while under warranty.

You'll get the newer style loader, under hood exhaust and I think there are some other small changes. Ask if he'll throw in the mower....all he can do is say no? My dealer told me the LX5 mower was like $1,100.00 bucks askin' price, I don't know if thats true but maybe you can get it cheeper with the package deal.

 

[HRS]

The CUT was a NH TC33 gear. Not a very large tractor at all. It pulled a duel axle spreader, 2500 lbs in weight. Spreader was loaded with one ton of palletized lime and 1/5 ton 10-10-10. Oh, I forgot to add another couple hundred pounds of seeds.

Now I don't make a habit of doing this. Actually, I have only done this twice. After closely inspecting the condition of some of these spreaders, I decided to go back to sacked material and broadcast with either drum or drop spreaders. I don't feel safe pulling some of that neglected junk found at the local seed company down the road. A 790 could easily handle either of the other spreaders I use. And since I intend to till my seedbeds instead of dragging harrows through them, weight honestly isn't an issue. I was just surprised that optional weights cost so much. Ouch$

There are ways to get around any problem. I could easily do the same work with far less than a 30 hp tractor. All it takes is a little extra time. Now that's just what weekends are made for.

 

[randy_berger]

seems like a very good price to me. last sat i paid about $15.5 plus tax with the 300 loader and rim guard ($500!). probably paid a little more than i had to but i like the dealer a lot. good will counts in my opin.

 

[randy_berger]

thanks rob and roy for comments. what a blast to get feedback on stuff that's important to me. come spring i'm going to have to find a rotary cutter and finish mower, which i probably should have negot for when i bought the 790. i was reluctant to put permanent weight in the tires (rim guard) so it was nice to hear everyone saying you need weight. i had thought the bucket could be used to knock over small trees but don't think i would do that after all. seems like you would beat it up in no time.

 

[Michigan_Mike]

Her is how I handle the multiflora rose that's trying to take over our field.
Wrap a chain around the base of the bush, hook it to the FEL and lift. If the bush is one of the bigger ones, I first undercut it with the FEL.
I tired, once, to pull them from the drawbar, but when the rope slipped off the bush, and went flying past my head, I gave up on that approach. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
(My father often wondered if I would ever live to see retirement.)

 

[ruglad03835]

That price is just about right. I paid $14600 for my 790 with 300 loader, loaded tires and ballast box delivered with no sales tax seeing how I live in New Hampshire.

Live Free or Die!!!!!

 

[ruglad03835]

Forgot to mention that was in November of 2005

 

[JDCovert]

Jeezum crowbars!! You got a screaming good deal!! The dealer didn't make didly squat off that sale.

 

[daTeacha]

If you use a steel cable with a loop on either end you can "lasso" the base of the MF rose. As you drive away, you tighten the noose and it won't slip off.

 

[ruglad03835]

Yup,

I really happy with the dealer I chose. They are a good bunch of folks and did a nice job for me. I worked three dealers and stayed with my forst choice. I asked the manager to look into the bio-diesel issue for me a few weeks back and I went down and had a nice conversation over coffee with him. By the way you can run B5 bio in the Deere tractors with no problem. As a matter of fact he showed me a pess release from Deere stating that they are now shipping tractors with B5 Bio. I figure by burning Bio I'm doing my fair share to keep farmers working and not sending my hard earned money to the oil barons

 

[Michigan_Mike]

Good idea.
I'll try that. As soon as the snow disappears.
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[daTeacha]

Rick -- do you have access to off road diesel up there? If so, is that biodiesel too? I save about $.42 per gallon by not paying the road tax. I'd like to be able to get biodiesel at the same time. The dealer sells E-85 gasoline, but hasn't gotten into biodiesel yet.

Mike -- it works just fine with only my little B7100 pulling. I have about a 4' cable with a loop clamped in both ends and just hook a chain to the cable and drive away slowly.

 

[ruglad03835]

I just bought B-5 diesel today. It was $2.55 per gallon. I could buy off road diesel and not have to pay tax however it is nothing more than heating oil. I will be talking to a heating oil dealer in the near future who sells and delivers b-5 diesel hopefully without road tax.

 

[ruglad03835]

By the way we have 8" of snow so far and it's still falling. I get to play with my diesel snow shovel tomorrow!!!
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[Keoke]

Roy, I note that the 770, predecesor to the 790, and the 970, predecessor to the 990 came std with a collar shift transmissions. However, you could upgrade to an all syncromesh transmission for a few bucks more on these older units. Is the synchro upgrade also offered on the 790 and 990 tractors?
I have a 970 with the synchro 9 speed trans.

cheers,

 

[RoyJackson]

"Is the synchro upgrade also offered on the 790 and 990 tractors?"

There is no optional transmission offered on the 790. The collar shift is it with 8 forward speeds and 2 reverse.

The 990 has only the 9 x 3 sync-shift available.

Both these tractor are "value" machines which limit any options.

I have no problems adapting to the limitations...although I do wish the 790 had the 9 x 3 synchro transmission (or a power shift) on rare occasions. That two speed reverse is normally either too slow (in low range) or too fast (high range) at PTO speed for many tasks...but with a little thought, one can work with this.

 

[Keoke]

Roy, my 970 manual shows the 870,970 as standard with a "collar shift" trans and an optional choice of a synchromesh trans. The 1070 only came with the synchro trans.
I see the current 990 listed on the JD site as having a "collar shift" trans and the 790 as having a "sliding gear" trans.
I know what a sliding gear and synchromesh transmissons are but have no clue as to what a "collar shift" trans is.
Could you fill me in on this one?
On the 870, 970 JD showed a choice difference between the "collar shift" and synchromesh transmissions so they can't be the same thing.
No big deal on the above, I just wondered what a "collar shift" trans is and why they took the "synchromesh" trans option away on the 990 which, outside of the hsp, is pretty much the same tractor as the 970 and 1070.

cheers,

 

[randy_berger]

roy, did you buy that chipper yet? the wallenstein 40 i looked at didn't look like such a great deal ($2500) compared to the 60 ($3000). and both seemed pretty pricey compared to the jinma 6" (about $1700) but i'm having trouble finding a local source. i've got a 790 too and think a pto chipper would come in real handy on the 40 acres (i'm hiring an excavator to clear maybe 6 of them). also wonder whether its better to get a chipper/shredder, since a lot of the plant material (tree tops, etc) is really not big enough to be chipped.