7610 competion

[elalexander]

I stopped in a Kubota dealer today and I was impressed with these machines as well as the pricing. Does anyone know what the 7610 would compare to in the John Deere line? We have been looking at the JD 790/2320 and 2520 but thought I would check out the Kubota line up.

Hey, for the money that BX24 with a hoe is a sweet deal too.

Thanks for any input, EL.

 

[ChuckinNH]

The Kubota B7610, and JD 2320 are the closeset match, the BX24 is matched by the JD2305. The B7610 is being replaced very soon by an updated version the B2320, B2620, and B2920. There is a thread here on that subject.

 

[elalexander]

Thanks Chuck.

 

[peterc38]

I bought a 7610 in August 2007. I paid $13,900 with LA352 loader. Based on the changes on the newer 釘 壮, I知 not sorry that I didn稚 wait because I had projects to do and we have gotten a lot of snow, so it has come in handy. I think if they had added position control, I would have regretted it. Some don稚 like the quarter inching but it hasn稚 seemed to bother me. Since I am a newer tractor owner maybe that is why. One of the more knowledgeable guys on here ( Art I think) mentioned that it sometimes easier for a beginner to get used to the quarter inching than an experienced operator who has previously used position control (not that I am arguing that quarter inching is better).

The newer 3 speed HST is a nice touch too, but for me not a big deal. One great upgrade you can do on a 7610 rather cheaply (I paid $130) is buy the telescoping arm kit from a B2910. Any Kubota dealer can get you the parts and it makes it a lot easier to change implements than the stock turnbuckles. There was a member that did a great post on this modification w/ pics. Do a search and you can probably find it.

I also purchased a 60 Woods box scraper and a 48 Bush hog new and I found a sweet deal on a hardly used 60 Woods rear blade for $200. All in all I have been very satisfied with this purchase.

 

[elalexander]

Thanks Peter. I haven't had a FEL before so I to may not notice the hydrulic differences. I am starting to lean toward the HST tranny. I really like the JD 790, now 3005 because it is a gear tranny. However I am finding very few complaints about the HSt even on riding mowers. Some poster say loader work is easier with the HST then a gear transmission. Also, the 3 range hydro in the Kubota "20 series seems like that should fill in any gear nitch anyone would have. My present tractor has a 3 speed transmission, 3 speed transfer case, (LMH) and a 2 speed creeper gear, (H & L) so I have plenty of gearing for what I need.
The Kubota prices are easier explaining to ones better have then the green machine prices too.

 

[spoon059]

Just got a 7610 this month and love it. It is a great tractor and affordably priced. This is our second Kubota, and both had HST. We looked at a couple different tractors, gear driven and glide shift, but the HST was what we wanted. I know that there are some situations where a geared tractor is better for holding a certain RPM range or something, but for overall light tractor use the HST is perfect for me.

Not having to worry about clutches makes it easier to mow, easier to drive rough or hilly terrain, and leaves both hands free to steer and operate other mechanical devices at the same time. Really, unless you NEED the features of a gear driven tractor, the HST is the way to go!!!

And for what its worth, there was no competition when we went to purchase our tractor. We have a 20 year old Kubota that has never let us down or had a single mechanical problem(heck, it still has the original brakes!!!). Kubota is a fantastic quality tractor with good dealers in my area, reasonable prices, and a solid reputation. I really don't think you can go wrong with a Bota

 

[elalexander]

Thanks Spoon. I got quotes ,again on the JD 3005 and 2320. We never had a hydro but folks we know have no complaints either. From riding mowers to garden tractors to utility tractors so that isn't a problem. I want to see the Kubota 20 line up I hear will be out in March with a3 speed range on the hydro. This machine should go head to head with a JD 2300 series line up from what I have read. It would be nice to have one machine to do everything instead of a mower, then a tilling, plowing, tree pulling machine. Thanks for the input from an owner. I may have to get back with ya to pick your brain a bit .

EL

 

[spoon059]

You got it. Here is a picture of the new 7610 with loader and the old b9200

 

[john_bud]

You got it. Here is a picture of the new 7610 with loader and the old b9200

You keep your equipment in good shape!

jb

 

[elalexander]

Hey spoon something else I like is the room at your feet with both the 2320/2520 JD as well as the 7610 'buto's. My Bolens and the 3005JD I am looking at have a "very busy floor area". Not a big deal until your on these machines several hours.

 

[elalexander]

What is positiion control and quarter inching? On my 3pt. hitch lever I have a thumb screw I can set once I establish the depth I need. Also, speed control on the 3ph. What is the difference?

 

[spoon059]

Not entirely sure what the actual definitions are, but I'll try to explain. On my old tractor, if you wanted the 3PH halfway up, you set the lever to halfway.

On the 7610 with 1/4 inching, to raise the 3ph you pull all the way up on the lever until you get where you want it and let go of the lever. To lower it, you can pull the lever all the way down to quickly drop the 3ph, or you can have it very slowly lower it in a precise manner. Think of it like a volume control on your tv. You hold it in the up position til you get it where you want and let go, just like turning the volume up or down, then you just let go of the handle.

Does this make any sense what-so-ever???

 

[ChuckinNH]

I would add a couple of things. There is no sliding stop to preset a depth with 1/4 inching, and for fine adjustment you can move the depth lever to either the up, or down stop, and release it. When you release the lever it will return to the neutral position (if it is set up correctly) and the lift will move a small amount at the hitch points/ball ends. So you could lower the implement until it touches the ground slowly, and then raise, or lower it by the same number of movements of the lever to stop, and release each time, but you can't really just return to the same depth each time as you can with position control.

There is a knob on tractors with both systems that controls the speed that the implement will drop just as there is on your tractor, and that is separate from the depth system, either position control, or quarter inching.

 

[bandit67]

What about the little screw/clamp that Kubota puts on the B7800 - it's on the lever guide in front of the 3pt hitch lever? I didn't have time to play with that because I had too much work to do during my 8 hour rental, but I assumed it was so that you could set the down stop for box blading, tilling, raking, etc.

Based on the way the 1/4 inching valve worked, I would figure that little screw stop would be the way to set your 3pt implement to go down to the same position each time.

 

[ChuckinNH]

No, there is no way to set a stop to repeat a depth setting. There is also a few posts about this in the "new B series catalog" thread. If you push the lever far enough in either direction to allow the hitch to move, it will continue to move in that direction until you release the lever basicly.
Here is what I posted in the other thread, and a reply from a user:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckinNH
Dmanspage. It is my understanding (perhaps wrong) that when pushed to the 1/4 inching stop in either direction, and released, the lift lever will return to the center / neutral position by itself. This gives you a quick, and repeatable small adjustment feature. Gross adjustment is made by moving the lever to the steady lift / lower position, and fine adjustment is made with the 1/4 inching stops.


Yes Chuck, that's exactly how it works and for my needs it's fine.

 

[Northland]

I too think the B7610 (and B7800 ) is a great value.

Peter-thanks for the tip of the telescoping arm upgrade-that might work real well with my quick hitch.

I use my tractor for skidding wood, trail maintenance, snow removal and a bit of landscaping. My B7800 is one of those "older/out-of-date designs" yet I find it doesn't leave me wanting for anything. The added bonus's of Kubota's stellar quality, 3 dealers within 40 minutes of my house and potential resale value just heighten my value index.

The old seat was not good but Kubota remedied that (what I considered to be a minor issue) with a $25 replacement seat.

 

[elalexander]

Thanks spoon & Chuck. It really sounds like a matter of preference instead of one being heads and shouldes above the other. I just adjust my speed control so I'm not slamming something into the ground and set the stop on the 3ph down lever to where I want it and go. No biggy. Sounds like one maker has one thing and the other has something different. I will ask as I look around at new machines.

 

[peterc38]

Thanks spoon & Chuck. It really sounds like a matter of preference instead of one being heads and shouldes above the other. I just adjust my speed control so I'm not slamming something into the ground and set the stop on the 3ph down lever to where I want it and go. No biggy. Sounds like one maker has one thing and the other has something different. I will ask as I look around at new machines.

It is not so much a case of one manfacturer has one system while another manufacturer has something else. In this case we are talking about Kubota and in the so called budget "B" s 1/4 inching is what you get. Conversely with the premium "B" models, i.e. B2630 & B3030, position control is standard. The 1/4 inching is not an issue for me but many users prefer positon control.