Dave41
Bronze Member
MrP, any chance you could post a picture of your boom pole contraptions. Sounds interesting.
Thanks, Dave
Thanks, Dave
7500 vs 2710
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TresCrows
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Actually used in the proper method a boxblade will spread and then smooth gravel very nicely. It can also be used to recontour the drive and redistribute the gravel from thick to thin areas by varying the technique used. I use my flexible tine harrow in a similar method to the way you use your rake which is what the guy was using the chainlink fence for---or was it really a flex harro?. I drag the tine harrow and it fluffs up the gravel and smooths it and makes all the ruts and dips dissappear. It is often enough without any help from my rear blade or boxblade. When I built the pad around my new well I spread piles of gravel with the FEL and then smoothed and pushed them together with the boxblade, same with my road--it will certainly spread gravel but it requires technique and PC helps a lot. Yes, I think a landscape rake is an excellent tool for smoothing and maintaining a drive--sounds like a must have!
I still do not think you need loaded tires but lot's of guys do that, I think momentarily shifting to 4WD or using the diff lock should be better on the lawn if you can cut thois area in straight lines.
Pic is of the gravel pad around my well --the gravel smoothed and contoured using primarily the box.
J
I still do not think you need loaded tires but lot's of guys do that, I think momentarily shifting to 4WD or using the diff lock should be better on the lawn if you can cut thois area in straight lines.
Pic is of the gravel pad around my well --the gravel smoothed and contoured using primarily the box.
J
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MrP
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Let me re-phrase. I don't feel comfortable using a box scraper to spread gravel. Too dangerous.
I will post a pic of the boom pole/chain link fence the next time I drag the pastures.
I will post a pic of the boom pole/chain link fence the next time I drag the pastures.
PaulT
Gold Member
MrP, what do you feel is dangerous about spreading gravel with a BB? Are you referring to the (likely) possibility of "overscraping" if it is not adjusted correctly? Or are you afraid of dropping the blade on your toe while you adjust the tilt with the top link/w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif. There are potential risks of using the boxblade, but most of these are to the surface and material you are working with, as opposed to yourself or those around you/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
MrP
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Paul,
The box blades I have used for my L3410 are heavy with cutting blades on back of the box that cut in both forward and revers. If I am trying to spread gravel on my driveway, I think it it just to easy to scarf the driveway when I don't want to. I would much rather use the rake to get the gravel where I want it, then use my chain link fence to smoothe it even.
As far as the danger, the danger is ME operating something with a cutting blade on my driveway (definately a recipe for distruction).
And it would hurt if I dropped a BB on my toe. /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif
The box blades I have used for my L3410 are heavy with cutting blades on back of the box that cut in both forward and revers. If I am trying to spread gravel on my driveway, I think it it just to easy to scarf the driveway when I don't want to. I would much rather use the rake to get the gravel where I want it, then use my chain link fence to smoothe it even.
As far as the danger, the danger is ME operating something with a cutting blade on my driveway (definately a recipe for distruction).
And it would hurt if I dropped a BB on my toe. /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif
sherbs
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Freds- If snow is a concern for the 7500, I have one with a rear mount 60" blower. Living in the Adirondacks a few miles from Lake Placid we get our share of dumps. To date no snow falls have been too much for this set up. Not sure if a front blower would be different. sherbs
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Hello! I am a new shopper of a Kubota!!
We began shopping for a BX2200, but decided that a 7500 would better suit our needs. When we went for a "test drive" we asked to drive a 2410 to see what it was like. They had none on the lot, but did have a 2710. OH MY!!
We felt that the 2710 was a MUCH nicer tractor and fell in love with it!! The factor that swayed me was when we set the rpm up high (to use implements) the 7500 sounded like it was hurting bad! Now this might have been this particular tractor, but the 2710 just hummed. Finger nails on the blackboard do not sway me a bit, but there was NO way I could stand the way that 7500 sounded! And the 2710 felt more like a tractor, the 7500 like a large riding lawn mower.
We decided to go to a local dealer to purchase the 2710. They were out, but he could order us one. BUT....... he did have a 2910 on the lot, with 8 hours. and could do a better price on it than on an ordered 2710. HMMMMMMMM
Now I know that 15% off list is a good price and 20% off list is considered a great price, BUT
Kubota is offering a rebate, should we expect to get this rebate off the discounted price? I do not want to cheat the salesperson out of his commision, but I do not want him to pocket the rebate either.
Any thoughts on this subject? THANKS!!
We began shopping for a BX2200, but decided that a 7500 would better suit our needs. When we went for a "test drive" we asked to drive a 2410 to see what it was like. They had none on the lot, but did have a 2710. OH MY!!
We felt that the 2710 was a MUCH nicer tractor and fell in love with it!! The factor that swayed me was when we set the rpm up high (to use implements) the 7500 sounded like it was hurting bad! Now this might have been this particular tractor, but the 2710 just hummed. Finger nails on the blackboard do not sway me a bit, but there was NO way I could stand the way that 7500 sounded! And the 2710 felt more like a tractor, the 7500 like a large riding lawn mower.
We decided to go to a local dealer to purchase the 2710. They were out, but he could order us one. BUT....... he did have a 2910 on the lot, with 8 hours. and could do a better price on it than on an ordered 2710. HMMMMMMMM
Now I know that 15% off list is a good price and 20% off list is considered a great price, BUT
Kubota is offering a rebate, should we expect to get this rebate off the discounted price? I do not want to cheat the salesperson out of his commision, but I do not want him to pocket the rebate either.
Any thoughts on this subject? THANKS!!
MrP
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frank_f15
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U BETTER QUICK LOOKING or u will end up with a grand L ./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif serious tho, u don't tell us how much land u want to take care of or what type of work u need to do, hard to give u a honest opinion on the tractor size that might be best for your needs. this next statement may sound crazy BUT SOMETIMES U CAN HAVE TO BIG A TRACTOR. you know what u need to do so u have to be the best judge of that.
TresCrows
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Howdy, doggman. I do not load my tires because I do not think it is needed for my uses and would only squash my yard and make ruts. The B2410 has proven it has plenty of traction and power for my puposes. Yes, I think the loaded tires would improve stability but if you notice the larger tires of the 2410 vs the 7500 produce a wider, more stable tractor. The 2410 seems more stable to me than the 7500 did but of course not quite as much so as the BX.
What do you mean by "how do you deal with the loader"----I do not understand the question. J
What do you mean by "how do you deal with the loader"----I do not understand the question. J
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MyCritterHaven
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Funny you say that, I have been telling people the same thing! Everytime we go to make a purchase, I end up falling in love with a bigger and higher dollar one. Then we go home, discuss, return to buy.....and fall in love with a bigger one!!
Last time the dealer tried to get me on a HUGE New Holland, but I refused, telling him that the 2710 / 2910 was the biggest that I felt I could handle!! (I think hubby was relieved) LOL
Anyway, we have 20 acres. Three of them are pasture being grazed by horses. Three other acres (on the lot we purchased last fall) are pasture overgrow with pine trees. I hope to reclaim this pasture.
The rest is wooded with large hardwood trees. I plan to have a local farmer do some clearing, leaving most of the hardwoods. And putting in about 4 / 8 more acres of pasture ($).
There is a small stream with a river rock path so the horses can cross over. I hope to drive the tractor over it too because the stream divides the 2 ten acre lots.
We have a Lowes garden tractor 48 inch cut that has not been reliable for the last few years. It dies before we finish mowing, we took it to a repair place, after a while it was doing the same thing, after taking it apart 4-5 times, changing fluids, cleaning, replacing parts, etc. we gave up.
We started shopping for a Kubota.
Hubby got me a Yard Machine, consumer best buy, push mower, for mothers day last year!! Ever try push mowing 3 acres? It REALLY keeps you in shape!! Takes a long time though! Quite the family affair!
Then this spring, hubby was going to get a 1400$ garden tractor from Sears. I said what about the Lowes tractor? (We will get it fixed) What about the Kubota? (We will still keep looking)
I knew if we got a Sears tractor, it would be YEARS before we would get a Kubota so, I took the Lowes mower to the shop, If it costs more than a hundred (not inluding tires or battery) to repair, it will become a lawn ornament. 3 weeks before we wil get it back! I push mowed the yard, and dragged hubby to 3 Kubota stores!
Since last fall we have gone from a BX 2200 to a B7500, (I thought that the 2200 was to close to the Lowes in size and in use) when we went to test the 7500, hubby wanted to see a 2401, but there was none.
They did have a 2710 which we both drove. We decided the 2710 would be better because it was higher off the ground (won't get hung up on rocks, tree stumps, and better for crossing the stream, (2 to 8 inches water).
We wanted to use a FEL, box blade, and a Rear finishing mower (I want a bush hog) to start. I want to scrape the driveway, Seed / Fertilize the pasture. Move manure around, pick up and transport hay bales from a neighbor field. Upkeep horse trails. Install more fence posts (future post hole digger)
Hmm, hubby wants to mow the pasture faster.
Last time the dealer tried to get me on a HUGE New Holland, but I refused, telling him that the 2710 / 2910 was the biggest that I felt I could handle!! (I think hubby was relieved) LOL
Anyway, we have 20 acres. Three of them are pasture being grazed by horses. Three other acres (on the lot we purchased last fall) are pasture overgrow with pine trees. I hope to reclaim this pasture.
The rest is wooded with large hardwood trees. I plan to have a local farmer do some clearing, leaving most of the hardwoods. And putting in about 4 / 8 more acres of pasture ($).
There is a small stream with a river rock path so the horses can cross over. I hope to drive the tractor over it too because the stream divides the 2 ten acre lots.
We have a Lowes garden tractor 48 inch cut that has not been reliable for the last few years. It dies before we finish mowing, we took it to a repair place, after a while it was doing the same thing, after taking it apart 4-5 times, changing fluids, cleaning, replacing parts, etc. we gave up.
We started shopping for a Kubota.
Hubby got me a Yard Machine, consumer best buy, push mower, for mothers day last year!! Ever try push mowing 3 acres? It REALLY keeps you in shape!! Takes a long time though! Quite the family affair!
Then this spring, hubby was going to get a 1400$ garden tractor from Sears. I said what about the Lowes tractor? (We will get it fixed) What about the Kubota? (We will still keep looking)
I knew if we got a Sears tractor, it would be YEARS before we would get a Kubota so, I took the Lowes mower to the shop, If it costs more than a hundred (not inluding tires or battery) to repair, it will become a lawn ornament. 3 weeks before we wil get it back! I push mowed the yard, and dragged hubby to 3 Kubota stores!
Since last fall we have gone from a BX 2200 to a B7500, (I thought that the 2200 was to close to the Lowes in size and in use) when we went to test the 7500, hubby wanted to see a 2401, but there was none.
They did have a 2710 which we both drove. We decided the 2710 would be better because it was higher off the ground (won't get hung up on rocks, tree stumps, and better for crossing the stream, (2 to 8 inches water).
We wanted to use a FEL, box blade, and a Rear finishing mower (I want a bush hog) to start. I want to scrape the driveway, Seed / Fertilize the pasture. Move manure around, pick up and transport hay bales from a neighbor field. Upkeep horse trails. Install more fence posts (future post hole digger)
Hmm, hubby wants to mow the pasture faster.
Gomez
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<font color=blue> I thought that the 2200 was to close to the Lowes in size and in use</font color=blue>
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Interesting observation.
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Interesting observation.
tdenny
Platinum Member
TresCrows,
When you use your box blade to spread that gravel do you pull the shanks all the way up or just set them on the highest setting? I have been wondering if this is the corret procedure for using a box scraper.
When you use your box blade to spread that gravel do you pull the shanks all the way up or just set them on the highest setting? I have been wondering if this is the corret procedure for using a box scraper.
GlueGuy
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I usually leave the scarifiers on the top setting all the time regardless of what I'm doing. When spreading gravel with the boxblade, the blade is usually close to even fore/aft, so the scarifiers are above the ground. If I want to rip, I tilt the whole thing forward and dig in. Never have to move 'em.
Alan L.
Elite Member
One factor I think you can leave out of the 7500 vs 2710 decision is the fuel. My 2710 uses very little fuel - less than a gallon an hour usually, when mowing at PTO speed. Probably not much more than the 7500.
TresCrows
Elite Member
TD, the boxblade is a jack of all trades and perhaps master of none. For spreading gravel and soil the rippers are up all the way. The rippers are for just that--ripping and they are used to break up the soil for the cutting blade when used for digging in forward directrion. For scrapping and spreading etc the rippers should be up. Just cuz they are there does not mean you have to use them for everything. I have also used the rippers in reverse to allow the blade to float on them, the box being tilted nearly full forward. I have seen here at TBN the "how do you use a boxblade" type questions and the answer is just about any way you want if you get the results you want. Think about what you are wanting to do and then configure the box to do that one thing. J
MyCritterHaven
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We went to by the 2710, none on the lot, now we are up to the 2910, a price increase of only 820$....
MDSteve
Silver Member
When I was looking I started out at the L3000DT then up to the 3010 gear driven then changed to the HST then to the 3710 gear driven then ended up getting the 3710 with hst. Watch out for that little increase after a few trips to the dealer that increase grows and grows. But at least I'm happy and that's all the wife cares about.
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